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TedsDead



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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26556248 - 03/25/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ill post some pics of me making bags tomorrow and put em on the scale so u can see
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26556342 - 03/25/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does .2 work with sealed bags for you?
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filthyknees
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: poisoned]
#26556561 - 03/25/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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P r o f e s s i o n a l
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: AtmozFear]
#26556587 - 03/25/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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TedsDead said: about 4.20 lbs to be specific

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AtmozFear said: jesus christ that's a lot of shrooms!
For fucking real! I thought i had my hands full with 80 jars/20 monos. You guys running bags must be pumping out some serious numbers and putting in some serious time!
Excellent thread Ted, definitely some good info regarding efficiency
Edited by MLPismyOPSEC (03/25/20 08:41 AM)
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filthyknees
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You may be surprised. With 80 jars that means more pc cycles, more transfers as opposed to bags.
Bags are a lot more effecient in the pc, way faster to g2g into 10 bags than to g2g into 40 jars (=same results).
It's way, way smarter to be using bags if youre using that many jars in terms of of time and energy in expanding.
Shaking 10 bags versus shaking 40 jars is a lot different too.
Yay working smart & not hard. And if you like to work hard well, this can get a lot more done with your time.
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I have yet to make the leap to bags, mainly because I prefer reusables and I assume bags aren't reusable. Is this a poor assumption?
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filthyknees
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I wouldn't reuse and I don't know anyone who does.
Not using bags will hold you back a lot from effeciency and maximization but if you don't care then that's fine.
Bags are for people doing bulk, not a few tubs so maybe it's not meant for you.
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Yeah, I value reusability over efficiency. Which is why I do no-pour glass petris and will continue with my quart jars. Noccing 10 jars a week, spawning 5 shoeboxes a week keeps my shelves full (about 30 atm) and is about all I can handle anyway.
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26556777 - 03/25/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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no noticeable difference with contam / success rate
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: Mycobum7]
#26556809 - 03/25/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm assuming bags can't be used without the flowhood? Is my assumption right?
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: poisoned]
#26556837 - 03/25/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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poisoned said: I'm assuming bags can't be used without the flowhood? Is my assumption right?
well i believe with some bags you can pre seal if the filter patch breathes enough but if it doesnt they can blow
some people seal after pc
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: Mycobum7]
#26556947 - 03/25/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm more afraid of air currents that will happen when you try to noc them up. With jars, there aren't any. With bags, there's a shit ton every time you move it.
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: poisoned]
#26556967 - 03/25/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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poisoned said: I'm more afraid of air currents that will happen when you try to noc them up. With jars, there aren't any. With bags, there's a shit ton every time you move it.
Great point.
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: AtmozFear] 1
#26556973 - 03/25/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fuck yeah Ted! Killin it.
Bags can be used without a hood but it's a pain in the ass.
.5 or .2 can be presealed. Giving them no room to swell helps avoiding bursting/ pin holes. That's why we cram the PC as full as possible. Also it's just nice to get as much done as you can.
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: AtmozFear]
#26556975 - 03/25/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have only tried to use bags 1 time so far since Crack posted how he does it.
I have some .5 micron patch bags, and I loaded 4 into my 23qt presto
None of my bags sealed and now I find myself looking to pre-sealing as my solution. But I see plenty of you having no problem not pre-sealing..
I used 3.5 quarts of water, the trivet and some rings to raise the bottom layer up
PC'd at 15 psi for 3 hours and I didn't do much to slow the cool down, just reduced heat for about 20 mins and then cut the heat off and let it cool overnight
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: Camera93]
#26557027 - 03/25/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Getting as much air out as possible, folding nicely and packing righ tightly all help them seal well upon cool down. I'd they are allowed to expand they get all wonky and dunt seal well.
Also, prestos are a pain in the ass when using bags. I haven't figured that all out because I don't do bags in it much.
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26557246 - 03/25/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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+5 btw, thanks for breaking it all down for us
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TedsDead



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Quote:
filthyknees said: You may be surprised. With 80 jars that means more pc cycles, more transfers as opposed to bags.
Bags are a lot more effecient in the pc, way faster to g2g into 10 bags than to g2g into 40 jars (=same results).
It's way, way smarter to be using bags if youre using that many jars in terms of of time and energy in expanding.
Shaking 10 bags versus shaking 40 jars is a lot different too.
Yay working smart & not hard. And if you like to work hard well, this can get a lot more done with your time.

less is more!
also, I was maybe enjoying the fruits of my lobor a bit last night I definitely meant myco qts not a full to the brim qt jar. bags are 4lbs and usually a tad over and end up at 4.20 after inoculation
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verum subsequentis said: Getting as much air out as possible, folding nicely and packing righ tightly all help them seal well upon cool down. I'd they are allowed to expand they get all wonky and dunt seal well.
Also, prestos are a pain in the ass when using bags. I haven't figured that all out because I don't do bags in it much.
exactly! when I try to put in only 4 or 6 bags and dont weigh them down properly, they over expand and burst more often thatn not. never burst with this method
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Re: pc efficiency tek [Re: TedsDead]
#26557936 - 03/25/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Damn that is a lot of bags in one pc!
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TedsDead



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hehehehehe....
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