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Should you PC Coir?
    #26555734 - 03/24/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The question has been around for ages, pasteurize, Sterilize or Hot bucker cook your coir. Let me start out by saying I'm actually ok with this result, but I don't think it is oats. This has to be a contamination seed from the coir. Anyway cool picture bro.





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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26555737 - 03/24/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So what did you do to get this result?

I’ve always pasteurized.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: SynKyd]
    #26555746 - 03/24/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bod ice chest Tek. Kinda warped the inside of my cooler, but hey...

It's really Bods bucket Tek, ecoearth coir. Straight no verms.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: SynKyd]
    #26555747 - 03/24/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bucket tek fo life. :rockon:

Coir. Verm. Boiling water.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26555760 - 03/24/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm gonna let this one roll out and see what type of seed is sprouting.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26555794 - 03/24/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Bucket tek fo life. :rockon:

Coir. Verm. Boiling water.



:whathesaid:

OP, I’ve had little green guys growing in my tubs before. Nothing to worry about.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26555799 - 03/24/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nice grow man

I've also looked into this question quite extensively at some point.. the general consensus that I've came across.. people do good with sterilization/pasturizing substrate but plenty of people do very well without also.. think it gets down to technique and environment ..my stuff gets dry easily.. 6k  elevation and desert area..
Gonna try unpasteurized coir next round for sure tho


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26555808 - 03/24/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

For coir it is not necessary to PC or pasteurize, you can just hydrate with cold water.

I personally boil 4.5 quarts of water, pour it over one brick in a 5 gallon tub and put the lid on loosely. Spawn 45 minutes after while coir is still hot. This stimulates growth and results in a faster colonization time.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: xnirvanax]
    #26555843 - 03/24/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It does.. doesn't mean it's ideal.. I feel like the answer to this question is quite suggestive.. everyone's situation is different..


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: xnirvanax] * 1
    #26555849 - 03/24/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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For coir it is not necessary to PC or pasteurize, you can just hydrate with cold water.

I personally boil 4.5 quarts of water, pour it over one brick in a 5 gallon tub and put the lid on loosely. Spawn 45 minutes after while coir is still hot. This stimulates growth and results in a faster colonization time.




Mixing mycelium with hot coir is a terrible idea and does absolutely
nothing to result in faster colonization times and in fact is probably
better for contams to grow faster instead. Dont do this op


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: rumfor69]
    #26555875 - 03/24/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

i'm not talking about high temperatures.
with the lid loose, it cools to near room temperature, ~80F

full colonization of 70qt from 10-12 days to 8-7 days with several varieties 1:1
coir:spawn


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: xnirvanax]
    #26555906 - 03/24/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

WTH are you guys talking about.

All I was saying was that I germinated some seed, which I'm assuming was in the coir because I didn't PC the coir and I faux pasteurized it instead.

Let's  be clear for anyone else reading this, never spawn to hot coir.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26555920 - 03/24/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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WTH are you guys talking about.

All I was saying was that I germinated some seed, which I'm assuming was in the coir because I didn't PC the coir and I faux pasteurized it instead.

Let's  be clear for anyone else reading this, never spawn to hot coir.




The seed is from your WBS in the coir, most likely.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #26555926 - 03/24/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bucket tek with Ecoearth hasn't failed me yet!


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26555927 - 03/24/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I get it a few times a year...my fucking grain gets everywhere


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: cronicr]
    #26555934 - 03/24/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You think it is the Oats? Interesting. Well I guess I'm a farmer TL!


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: ohfunkya]
    #26555935 - 03/24/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve had a few sprouts with eco earth, none since I’ve switched but hasn’t been all that long yet.


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26555959 - 03/24/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I use eco earth too. Could be from that, but I doubt it :shrug:


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #26555978 - 03/24/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Op don't act like you don't know where this thread could go lmao.. such a broad question.. can't expect exact answers..


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Re: Should you PC Coir? [Re: Mr Solo Dolo]
    #26555987 - 03/24/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

if you hydrate with cold water any seeds in the coir may grow.
bucket tek will kill seeds in the coir
pasturizing will kill seeds in the coir
sterilizing will kill seeds in the coir.
if you have a seed knocked off of something that lands in your cooled coir in any of the above then it doesn't matter, your coir should also be seed free.


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