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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] 2
#26554524 - 03/24/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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think of all the medical trash thats being produced gawd dizam.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26554526 - 03/24/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chloroquine is not a CURE bus it has been shown in China and South Korea to put a significant dent in COVID if used well
Do you have a credible source for this claim?
It’s been days this claim has been floating around and I have yet to see a single document showing anything saying these drugs have shown efficacy.
I’ll say the same thing I said about Kaletra a few weeks ago: if chloroquine was showing positive clinical results, the results would have already been published. The fact that we don’t have any results from clinical trials suggests strongly that these trials haven’t shown any efficacy/
Meanwhile the one obviously efficacious drug is about to become unaffordable for most people.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26554529 - 03/24/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chloroquine is not a CURE bus it has been shown in China and South Korea to put a significant dent in COVID if used well
Do you have a credible source for this claim?
It’s been days this claim has been floating around and I have yet to see a single document showing anything saying these drugs have shown efficacy.
I’ll say the same thing I said about Kaletra a few weeks ago: if chloroquine was showing positive clinical results, the results would have already been published. The fact that we don’t have any results from clinical trials suggests strongly that these trials haven’t shown any efficacy/
I'm not listening to Trump in this.
https://www.hngn.com/articles/228138/20200223/coronavirus-cure-chloroquine-confirmed-effective.htm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32074550
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26554530 - 03/24/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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However, it may cause stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, headache and sometimes even itchiness
wager that with mild corona symptoms? eeehhhh
1 corona plz
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 2
#26554533 - 03/24/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is another one called camostat mesylase I'm surprised I haven't heard more about. It binds up the protein that primes the ace2 receptor
Also surprised I haven't heard more and losartan and valsartan
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26554535 - 03/24/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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This country cannot bear another four years of republicans handing over every fucking thing to corporate America. How the fuck can billion dollar companies not even go three weeks without profits before they need to be bailed out. It’s fucking disgusting.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26554537 - 03/24/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26554539 - 03/24/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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How are they going to do the election?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: mushboy]
#26554540 - 03/24/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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However, it may cause stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, headache and sometimes even itchiness
wager that with mild corona symptoms? eeehhhh
1 corona plz

Mild corona symptoms is not why I would take Chloroquine.
Serious symptoms with no hospital to go to, that marks the spot. Its a drug.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26554545 - 03/24/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Chloroquine is not a CURE bus it has been shown in China and South Korea to put a significant dent in COVID if used well
Do you have a credible source for this claim?
It’s been days this claim has been floating around and I have yet to see a single document showing anything saying these drugs have shown efficacy.
I’ll say the same thing I said about Kaletra a few weeks ago: if chloroquine was showing positive clinical results, the results would have already been published. The fact that we don’t have any results from clinical trials suggests strongly that these trials haven’t shown any efficacy/
I'm not listening to Trump in this.
https://www.hngn.com/articles/228138/20200223/coronavirus-cure-chloroquine-confirmed-effective.htm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32074550
Where is the data? All I see is “apparent efficacy.” And “Here we found that treating the patients diagnosed as novel coronavirus pneumonia with chloroquine might improve the success rate of treatment, shorten hospital stay and improve patient outcome.”
Come on, we need to see the actual protocols of a study. Just one study where they compared randomized groups of control and chloroquine patients and their outcomes. Again the fact that this data still doesn’t exist leads me to believe there is nothing impressive about the results.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26554546 - 03/24/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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weak dude.
if that med is viable and the demand skyrockets people will die while others sit on personal what if stashes.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26554552 - 03/24/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Search Hauntavirus on the webs.
Suddenly, a bunch of wild articles are popping up.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26554557 - 03/24/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm pre-empting that Koods.
Rather than wait for the double blind clinical trial and dying before it arrives I'm going to go with a medically responsible dosing regimen of a 70yo drug that shows promise.
COVID-19 with my risk factors shows me no promise.
"Probably better than nothing" at this point is good enough for me.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: susurrador]
#26554559 - 03/24/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hantavirus?
That’s a problem that pops up from time to time in the Southwest. There’s a mouse that is a reservoir and occasionally people get infected. What about it?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: mushboy]
#26554560 - 03/24/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said: weak dude.
if that med is viable and the demand skyrockets people will die while others sit on personal what if stashes.
Did you still get no supplies to weather the storm because you don't want to survive on a what if stash where other people will need your pasta and tuna more?
Tell me you still only have half a box of macaroni out of concern for your fellow man.
With all the negativity you brought to this thread I want to see you feed off the flower bulbs in your neighbors garden 
Seriously man - I want to live. I will not die so someone who watched fox news and did fox-all he help himself while whining about immigrants can live.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26554562 - 03/24/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Asante said: I'm pre-empting that Koods.
Rather than wait for the double blind clinical trial and dying before it arrives I'm going to go with a medically responsible dosing regimen of a 70yo drug that shows promise.
COVID-19 with my risk factors shows me no promise.
"Probably better than nothing" at this point is good enough for me.
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Asante said: I'm pre-empting that Koods.
Rather than wait for the double blind clinical trial and dying before it arrives I'm going to go with a medically responsible dosing regimen of a 70yo drug that shows promise.
COVID-19 with my risk factors shows me no promise.
"Probably better than nothing" at this point is good enough for me.
Chloroquine is a potent immunosuppressant. I have no idea why you would take something like that without proven efficacy.
In the hydroxychloroquine study trump posted, the control group had better outcomes.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26554567 - 03/24/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Asante said: Tell me you still only have half a box of macaroni out of concern for your fellow man.
relatively ubiquitous food and some random barely anyones ever heard of pill is a completely different level.
if that macaroni box cured aids id give it away.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26554569 - 03/24/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said: Hantavirus?
That’s a problem that pops up from time to time in the Southwest. There’s a mouse that is a reservoir and occasionally people get infected. What about it?
In the 90's, the X-Files and the movie made the claim that FEMA would come and seize control of the USA by declaring a National Emergency stating an outbreak of Hantavirus. Many of the same symptoms though...
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26554571 - 03/24/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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hantavirus is only new if youve been living on twitter.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] 1
#26554575 - 03/24/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There wqas enough evidence for South Kore to adopt it as a protocol based on chinese outcomes.
I don't speak Chinese or Korean, nor do I have access to their sources because China is tight like a vault but if its proven enough in China and SK, its proven enough for me. It doesn't have to be columbused to me for me to believe in it.
Watched that MedCram video?
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