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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #26553821 - 03/23/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Unless you’re dealing with a close talker and touching man made objects I wouldn’t worry about outside situations


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 3
    #26553840 - 03/23/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

on an acreage, can spend the full day outside and not even see a neighbour

but there is still a foot of snow everywhere and below zero temperatures
so not doing a whole lot outside

hate snow


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Tantrika]
    #26553848 - 03/23/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I luv snow! :iloveyou:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26553879 - 03/23/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Actual death rate of ingesting the virus is probably less than .05%




maybe, but only time will tell us more accurate numbers.  and I think .05% is way low.

I'm no statistician. 

I've been following this site since someone posted it in here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

It's been interesting to watch the "closed cases" which refers to either recovered/discharged or dead.  Currently it stands at 86% recovered/discharged and 14% dead.  That's notable because over the last two weeks I've watched the death percentage of this particular metric tick upward.  it was at 8-9% two weeks ago.  Again I'm no expert it just caught my attention.

Regardless, it seems like a big enough problem to shut down countries and overwhelm even the most modern of healthcare systems.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: unam sanctum] * 1
    #26553883 - 03/23/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

.05% would be half the mortality rate of the flu. Not a chance.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26553886 - 03/23/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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.05% would be half the mortality rate of the flu. Not a chance.




wouldn't it be 1/20th? I thought flu mortality ranged but was about 1%?

How are you morrow?

You're on the front line no?


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26553897 - 03/23/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve said it before 1% is absolute lowest number possible in the best circumstance (modern healthcare system that runs within capacity). Once the heathcare system has to triage the mortality rate skyrockets.

I think this disease has a natural mortality rate around 8-10%  it’s only through aggressive modern medical technology that it’s around 1-2%

Just for reference, the 1918 flu had a CFR around 3%. I think if covid happened in 1918 it would have been much much worse than the flu.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: unam sanctum] * 1
    #26553899 - 03/23/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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.05% would be half the mortality rate of the flu. Not a chance.




wouldn't it be 1/20th? I thought flu mortality ranged but was about 1%?

How are you morrow?

You're on the front line no?




I believe flu mortality is about .1%


That said, it still accounts for a major percentage of deaths every year. Like 2% iirc. So if this disease has even say a .75% mortality rate which seems best case scenario , it will be a much much higher proportion of cause of death this year than the flu.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26553916 - 03/23/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

For the most part, the flu is a preventable illness. It’s a known known. It’s not going to run like wildfire through society if we don’t radically change our behavior. Without social distancing and massive public health measures most of the population would get covid-19 within two or three months. It sounds like a prediction, but it’s also a fact. Like the sun coming up tomorrow.

If that happened, at least 3 million people would die but the healthcare system simply cannot handle anything close to having nearly the entire population sick at once so you end up with mortality rates closer to living in a country with no heathcare system at all. 25 million dead in three months.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26553930 - 03/23/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I believe flu mortality is about .1%





Oh I was way off you're right.  I got CFR confused with the R nought.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: unam sanctum] * 2
    #26553953 - 03/23/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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.05% would be half the mortality rate of the flu. Not a chance.




wouldn't it be 1/20th? I thought flu mortality ranged but was about 1%?

How are you morrow?

You're on the front line no?




I guess. Grocery store workers on the front lines, the brazen motherfuckers. The er has been a ghost town lately. By far the easiest work week I have had since I started. Could be things are gonna start getting spicy here the coming week or two. Maybe the virus is taking its sweet time incubating here. Or maybe the unbearable humidity combined with the Texan mentality of driving massive trucks and putting spider rims on your car so nobody can get close to you is paying off for once


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
    #26553959 - 03/23/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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For the most part, the flu is a preventable illness. It’s a known known. It’s not going to run like wildfire through society if we don’t radically change our behavior. Without social distancing and massive public health measures most of the population would get covid-19 within two or three months. It sounds like a prediction, but it’s also a fact. Like the sun coming up tomorrow.

If that happened, at least 3 million people would die but the healthcare system simply cannot handle anything close to having nearly the entire population sick at once so you end up with mortality rates closer to living in a country with no heathcare system at all. 25 million dead in three months.


yeah definitely. If you can get social distancing going early it will be very effective. I expect the data from other countries that shut the fuck down immediately when they saw what was happening here will reflect that. Unfortunately people just come to the USA a lot from all over the world and covid19 looks similar enough to other respiratory infections that it was probably lurking around for longer than we realize. The thing is, they're coming through both houston and New York constantly so there has to be an explanation for the disparity and I think it mostly comes down  to density, use of public transportation, and weather conditions.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26553971 - 03/23/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Washington state got lucky in a way having that outbreak in the nursing home and people in the area freaked out and they started the social distancing earlier. The disease likely hadn’t spread as much as people feared and the surge in deaths was a result of early introduction into a highly vulnerable population. Unfortunately all that focus on the west coast and importantion from China led to the situation in New York and importation from Europe to be ignored. Hundreds of people were infected before anyone even started thinking about Italy. There will be tens of thousands who will likely die and the public health measures in the city aren’t strong enough. So many people are infected total isolation of individuals is needed at this point.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
    #26553981 - 03/23/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The Olympics have been postponed until next year


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
    #26553987 - 03/23/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yeah they definitely need to shut New York down. Are the borders out of New York really still open? Plane travel being allowed out of New York? If so..... yeah, that's fucking insane.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26554007 - 03/23/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like my county will be issuing stay at home orders tomorrow


hope that doesnt fucking apply to taking a walk


bracing myself for the influx of drug seekers in the ER who cant get shit cuz their dealer wont drive or reup. amazing how many of them report experiencing "the worst pain of their lives" every single time they come in and are conspicuously allergic to every narcotic other than dilaudid. or, as they they like to put it, "whats that one that starts with the d... dil... something..?" :lol: but seriously its a pain in the ass. junkies of the shroomery, dont ever do this.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26554009 - 03/23/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So to anyone who is thinking they can just ride it out and self-medicate with chloroquine

it isn't a cure for a hospital (surprise)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/health/arizona-coronavirus-chloroquine-death/index.html

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A Phoenix-area man is dead and his wife is under critical care after the two took chloroquine phosphate in an apparent attempt to self-medicate for the novel coronavirus, according to hospital system Banner Health.
Chloroquine has been touted by President Donald Trump as a possible treatment for Covid-19, but it's also "an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks," Banner Health said in a statement. Chloroquine is approved by the Food and Drug Administration for treating malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. But the FDA has not approved it to treat the coronavirus.
Banner Health experts emphasized that the medication -- as well as other "inappropriate medications and household products" -- "should not be ingested to treat or prevent this virus."
"Given the uncertainty around COVID-19, we understand that people are trying to find new ways to prevent or treat this virus," Dr. Daniel Brooks, Banner Poison and Drug Information Center medical director, said in the statement. "But self-medicating is not the way to do so."





I wonder if they were listening to Trumps press briefings :facepalm3:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26554013 - 03/23/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Of course they were. Why else would they take chloroquine?


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
    #26554028 - 03/23/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

lol what is going on. the county leader (whatever the fuck you call them) says we're doing stay at home orders but the mayor of Houston says we're not :rofl: what a shit show


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] * 1
    #26554029 - 03/23/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Of course they were. Why else would they take chloroquine?



I mean to be fair Asante bought a fuckload of it and I don't think he's a Trumpkin :lol: Somehow I expect he's less likely to kill himself with it but hey


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