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Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?)
    #26553958 - 03/23/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys, I tried identifying this guy on my own and I'm having trouble, It looks a bit like a t. pachanoi but the spines are too long and the areole looks weird, a t. peruvianis fits more, but it's very green. Maybe it's not even a trichocereus :frown:



Maybe Cuzcoensis?


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26554180 - 03/23/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely trichocereus but hard to say exactly what it is. Probably peruvianus or something similar, it’s totally possible it’s a hybrid of some sort.


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: SFS96]
    #26554187 - 03/23/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Definitely trichocereus but hard to say exactly what it is. Probably peruvianus or something similar, it’s totally possible it’s a hybrid of some sort.




I'll pick it up and see what comes of it, thanks!


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26555773 - 03/24/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely a cross of some sort but likely impossible to identify until it get adult sized and starts showing certain qualities like growth of older spines (like peruvianus often does) unusually numbered spines (like bridge does) etc. The spines look far off from grandi cross but at a distance I was going to say grandiflorous cross until I was able to enlarge the picture.


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: Naturesystem]
    #26559234 - 03/26/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am leaning twoards cuzcoensis


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #26565466 - 03/29/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That one was bought at the nursery by someone other than me, but I found one similar enough that I'm confident itś  a clone from that one, here's pics of it next to my pach:



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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26565571 - 03/29/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They don't look like clones of each other, but its also a Trichocereus. I would have left both them at the nursery since they are scraps left over from grafting. Yes, they will eventually grow, but it will probably take a year or more for it to do anything. I have a scrap tip from a plant I grafted to and I'm still waiting almost a year later. Its got roots, its plump and healthy, but its just too small. When it does eventually grow, it will be narrow and elongated, like some of my San Pedro tips.

These days I'm a lot more picky about what tops I hold onto for propagation and what gets binned.

They are both nice plants, but don't expect it to grow anytime soon.


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26567070 - 03/30/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't mind,  I've got some seedlings that I'm grafting as soon as my peres are ready, but until them I don't have a good source of pachanois around here that are affordable. These were about 2-3 USD, so I just got one. Worst case scenario it'll be a good root stock for a loph or two once they outgrow their peres.


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26568047 - 03/30/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

For $2-3 its alright. I would entertain splitting them and doing slab grafts to a san pedro


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26568219 - 03/30/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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For $2-3 its alright. I would entertain splitting them and doing slab grafts to a san pedro



The lophs? Never heard of slab grafting. Are there any decent teks on it? I wasn't able to find any using the search engine (google nor shroomery)


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26568236 - 03/30/20 10:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm almost positive the cactus in the op is Trichocereus terscheckii. The one next to your pach is probably one too, though it does kind of have a bit of a peruvianus look to it. Neither look like cut tips imo, but terscheckii is a slow grower. They grow fat and round for awhile before they get columnar.


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26568350 - 03/31/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No, those little trichos. Basically you cut it into a slab like a split log and graft it to the top of a tricho.
I had a double pupped seedlings about 0.5 tall, split it into six pieces, two regular seedling grafts to pereskiopsis and four of them being slabs. I need to hunt them all down and see if any of them are growing. Numbered them all 172.

While a loph or button cactus could be grafted as a slab, I imagine that would probably be worst way to graft. The closest thing to grafting cloning a loph would probably be an aereol graft and there are plenty of guides on that.


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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26570117 - 03/31/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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They don't look like clones of each other, but its also a Trichocereus. I would have left both them at the nursery since they are scraps left over from grafting. Yes, they will eventually grow, but it will probably take a year or more for it to do anything. I have a scrap tip from a plant I grafted to and I'm still waiting almost a year later. Its got roots, its plump and healthy, but its just too small. When it does eventually grow, it will be narrow and elongated, like some of my San Pedro tips.

These days I'm a lot more picky about what tops I hold onto for propagation and what gets binned.

They are both nice plants, but don't expect it to grow anytime soon.




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Re: Cactus ID (Maybe San Pedro/P. Torch?) [Re: DancingWolf]
    #26570584 - 04/01/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm almost positive the cactus in the op is Trichocereus terscheckii. The one next to your pach is probably one too, though it does kind of have a bit of a peruvianus look to it. Neither look like cut tips imo, but terscheckii is a slow grower. They grow fat and round for awhile before they get columnar.



They're nice looking cacti, so that's a plus! From what I see most don't have fewer than 7 ribs, but maybe that'll change with time.

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No, those little trichos. Basically you cut it into a slab like a split log and graft it to the top of a tricho.
I had a double pupped seedlings about 0.5 tall, split it into six pieces, two regular seedling grafts to pereskiopsis and four of them being slabs. I need to hunt them all down and see if any of them are growing. Numbered them all 172.

While a loph or button cactus could be grafted as a slab, I imagine that would probably be worst way to graft. The closest thing to grafting a loph would probably be an aereol graft and there are plenty of guides on that.



Thanks! I'd give it a shot if I had more than one tricho. For now all I have are seedlings and peres, which I'll graft as soon as the peres get big enough.


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