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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Supernova] * 1
    #26552610 - 03/23/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Absolutely I think they should be legalized. No sales to minors, commercial sales maybe accompanied by a warning or info sheet or something, and call it a day. I have no concerns about "squares" taking them either. I think most people will have no interest just as it is now.


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Northerner]
    #26552789 - 03/23/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If squares were taking shrooms then they would soon stop being squares, no?  :wink:



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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Babylon] * 1
    #26552820 - 03/23/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Nazis eat shrooms, they're still Nazis, squares smoke weed now, they're still square.

And Larry I don't know anyone who has gone to jail for shrooms.  Just stay away from commercial transactions and you aren't really interesting to the cops, or easy for them to find




Well people HAVE gone to jail for shrooms.  Your opinion is not only self-centered but also makes the assumption that legalization will make people interested in psychedelic consumption despite not being so prior, which is mostly false.  In cases where that is not false, where people only have reserve towards taking them due to their criminality, we again see that the problem rests with the nature ov prohibition itself, not the drug or people interested.  The world does'nt center around you, thankfully, and even if you do'nt personally know people who have been arrested, the fact is that good natured people have indeed had their rights stripped away and lives upended due to prohibition.  Your opinion supports this incarceration, whether you desire it to be so or not.


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: lavod] * 1
    #26552887 - 03/23/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, especially medicinally, but recreationally as well. I think the most good would come from medicinal legalization and lots of harm reduction - I could see legit medical businesses opening up similar to the ketamine infusion places, but maybe someone who educated patients and helped them plan for their trips, and was there to assist with any issues that arose during it, and also feed them fruit platters and put on good music and administer a benzo if needed. Just for people who might really have no idea what they're getting into and might want some guidance. Fuck I'd love to have that job.


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26552909 - 03/23/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There should be no laws governing mushrooms.


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Nichrome] * 3
    #26553117 - 03/23/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

All drugs should be legal, but be accompanied by off-puting labels like they have on cigarettes

"mushrooms make you gay" with a picture of a naked hairy Santaclause (thanks Trex). Things like that


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26553136 - 03/23/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I thing a lot of thinks.


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Nichrome] * 1
    #26553182 - 03/23/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Allll psychoactive plants should be legal to possess, grow, consume, and gift to others.

From muhsrooms to coca, from ibogaine to poppy, from kratom to khat, everything....all plants should absolutely be legal to possess, grow, consume, & gift to others.


Allow all of that but don't allow any sales....keep sales illegal...Allow some non-profits or have some sort of program in place to provide psychedelic/psychoactive plants to those that can't grow them themselves (for what ever reason, handicapped, don't have the room to grow, don't have the ability to do so, etc etc...).


Allow stores to sell spores and grow kits, and seeds/cuttings/seedlings of psychoactive plants for growing (cactus, caapi, mimosa, acacia, ibogaine, etc etc etc....)...but don't allow stores to sell doses of mushrooms or extracted material, keep sales of things like that illegal.

Allow places to hold ceremonies with psychoactive plants...Allow therapists to use these plants in therapy...Allow research to happen with these plants.



Real simple...just make the plants "free" again, remove all criminality from the possession/consumption/growing of these plants. But keep sales illegal.

It puts the plants back in the hands of the "people" while also keeping it out the "mainstream public" while also creating access for everyone.

When these things are turned into a "product" or a "prescription" and become "regulated & controlled", the price is likely going to go up and the availability becomes limited to only those that have $$$ or insurance.

If anyone is allowed to grow as much mushrooms or cannabis or cactus or any plant they want, and if they are not allowed to be sold/sales remaining illegal, there will be an abundance and more than plenty to go around.

There is certainly no need to turn them into a "product" or a "prescription" .



I actually don't want to see mushrooms & psychedelic plants being sold openly in stores for profit, or seeing them in a capsule in the form of a prescription...I just want them to be "free", free in the sense of it not being a criminal act to posses/grow/consume/gift. Free in the sense that if one wants them, they won't be required to have $$$ just to have access to the mushrooms/plants.






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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Northerner] * 3
    #26553272 - 03/23/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If squares were taking shrooms then they would soon stop being squares, no?  :wink:




I see a lot of posts by people that seem to be taking shrooms enough that if shrooms actually made people any more self aware or mindful on their own, that they likely wouldn't act in ways that they do.  I used to think everyone should be using them and the world would be a better place but after some time here, I see that you can still be a detriment to society after doing shrooms.

The older I get, the more I think that we as a people on this planet are just fucked


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26553313 - 03/23/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The older I get, the more I think that we as a people on this planet are just fucked




:werd:

As a species we are very successful and eventually will spread throughout the universe. A bit like an incurable cancer.

On an individual level most of us are assholes (myself included)


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Re: Do you really thing shrooms should be legalized? [Re: Tripsurfer] * 2
    #26553426 - 03/23/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The main goal is to spread for sure. Any single planet is subject to cataclysm so we’ve got to be wide spread. To get where we are there needs to be an over abundance of life and strife. All these different creatures and interactions and catastrophes are to ensure that something will eventually win through and spread the disease of life to other hosts. Existence is insane in the hyperbolic sense.

And sure mushrooms should be legal. It’s crazy absurd that they’re currently illegal and most people are cool with it. They grow naturally. I heard a story on jre about a spot that was producing tons of mushrooms and the cops got wind of people showing up to pick and they would stake this place out and arrest you, put metal cuffs on your hands and lock you in a cell and leave your fate up to a person you’ve likely never met. Madness.

If more healthy people tripped and pondered the stars I think the world would be a better place. Slowly.


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