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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26552656 - 03/23/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fucking hell.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: RebeccaBlack] 1
#26552663 - 03/23/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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U good dawg don’t even trip homes 
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552666 - 03/23/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: Infected people are saying they're losing their sense of smell and taste in early symptoms. This probably means the virus started around their nose / mouth area.
Was just reading about viral load, viral shedding, and inoculum.
Seems the worst way to contract it is breathing it in thru the air from people coughing out large viral loads into the air having it go directly into your lungs instantly. - Stay a way from peoples breath and coughing
If you pick it up from surface, then face mouth touching, it'll start before it reaches your lungs, your body can actually make anti bodies while it's still in the mouth nose area before it reaches the lungs. Then your lungs will be better primed for the virus.
Picking up small quantities of the virus might be good for you
Like you don’t breathe the air that just came out of your own face 🤦♂️
I heard this advice from someone who is much more viable and impressive in the medical field than you.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees] 2
#26552667 - 03/23/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Stop Koods hating. He has had many valuable contributions throughout the thread from very early on.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26552668 - 03/23/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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What I added and then koods shat on is decent info that I'll apply to my daily practice, thought it would be good or others
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26552669 - 03/23/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Article in the newspaper this morning says a new study shows the virus is significantly less effective at transmitting in hot/humid conditions. This is likely a large part of the reason we haven't seen it spread as much here in Texas despite being a major travel hub.
It’s been springtime in New York City for two weeks.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552670 - 03/23/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Article in the newspaper this morning says a new study shows the virus is significantly less effective at transmitting in hot/humid conditions. This is likely a large part of the reason we haven't seen it spread as much here in Texas despite being a major travel hub.
It’s been springtime in New York City for two weeks.
That's 3 week old obselete info
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552674 - 03/23/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I mean if you look at the numbers it's easy to see the the winter hemisphere has been hit the hardest so far, but maybe that just says more about the volumes of travel from one area to another. Australia is starting to feel the burn( ), South America, and as far as Africa(as a continent) goes there's no way they have either the travel volume other places get or the capacity for testing/healthcare.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26552675 - 03/23/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Asante said: At this point you toss the substrate cake, Problem is, its home 
As you brought this up. I was wondering earlier whether or not being infected right now with a 'run of the mill' cold virus, would make us more succeptable to the Covid-19 virus, or less.
In as much as the sites they infect, mucous membrane, thoat and lungs etc are already occupied by this "run of the mill" virus, that, like a fully colonised cake, there is no substrate available to occupy. With a possible extra benefit that the immune system is already at full throttle dealing with this common invader. Shame I didn't preserve some of the last cold virus I had which was very mild, didn't even get a sore nose, but may have been enough to 'jump start' the immune response.
I know it's a "novel" virus but I was just wondering, do the white blood cells, which IIRC are resposible for fighting off infections, sometimes thow up some random 'keys' that might just coincidentally match Covid-19's 'viral lock'. So the more of them their are in circulation, as in when they are already at full tilt dealing with the cold infection, the more chance there is that a 'randomly mutated' white blood cell, for want of a better term, might come across this novel virus and be able to bagin an attack and warn the immune sytem to start coppying it's "mutation".
BTW. I'm not a medical student.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552678 - 03/23/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If we look at the Johns Hopkins COVID-19 World Map you see its all over morocco, algeria, Africa in general, south America, equatorial countries..
It is likely that dry heat reduced the threat to a degree but odds are it will stick to us 10-20x as tenaciously as SARS-1 all summer.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: deucedbi9]
#26552680 - 03/23/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Article in the newspaper this morning says a new study shows the virus is significantly less effective at transmitting in hot/humid conditions. This is likely a large part of the reason we haven't seen it spread as much here in Texas despite being a major travel hub.
It’s been springtime in New York City for two weeks.
Right now in NYC it is 39F. We're looking at highs in the upper 80s and lower 90s this week here in Houston. It's always humid.
So far it appears almost all of the cases identified in Houston were individuals who had traveled elsewhere.
Look, you all know I have not been trying to downplay this thing. I've seen firsthand how bad this illness is. But we are allowed to be optimistic where it's warranted.
I frankly look forward to the day when people say I overreacted to this thing.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552681 - 03/23/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Should i keep makong runs to the grocery store and stocking up more food or better to sit and ride out as long as possible?
Want to limit going out but also dont want to wind up neesing a store run and the shelves got worse
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26552682 - 03/23/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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My parents were hoping 3 weeks ago that it wouldn't last well in FL because it's been in the mid 80's.. that was long ago. Look at FL now
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees] 1
#26552684 - 03/23/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's 3 week old obselete info
Funny, it was published in today's newspaper
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552686 - 03/23/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: My parents were hoping 3 weeks ago that it wouldn't last well in FL because it's been in the mid 80's.. that was long ago. Look at FL now
this has to do with demographics. look at the hotspots in florida. it's where the retirement homes and stuff are. they keep it at like 60 something degrees inside those places. you got a bunch of old people with many comorbidities sitting in a petri dish at the perfect temp for incubating this virus.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26552688 - 03/23/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That news paper is lagging far behind. Kind of like the people who are just findng the spring break video and freaking out about it now.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: deucedbi9]
#26552692 - 03/23/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any comorbidity that is adverse for the airways, the heart or the kidneys, including smoking, being obese, not drinking enough water and being out of shape will worsen the prognosis.
SARS-2 (which this is, SARS-CoV-2) adheres to the ACE2 receptor tenaciously. Its a separate pathway from influenza, which adheres to H and N receptors.
If you have the flu and get covid, you are worse off.
If you are seroipositive and immunocompromised with HIV and covid swoops down, it mak kill you outright.
I foresee a slaughter in Africa.
African people are the youngest (median age of the continent) and very resilient, but there is very little ICU availability, to say the least. Likely there will be a great increase in the number of orphans.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552694 - 03/23/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: What I added and then koods shat on is decent info that I'll apply to my daily practice, thought it would be good or others
It’s riduculous information. Like your entire respiratory tract is not connected to itself. You get infected in the nose and you breathe through your nose it’s in your lungs. Stop spreading bogus information from your secret highly connected medical geniuses.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552697 - 03/23/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: That news paper is lagging far behind. Kind of like the people who are just findng the spring break video and freaking out about it now.
Explain this
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723 confirmed coronavirus cases, 7 deaths in Texas. We are tracking cases of coronavirus disease using data collected from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and state and local public health departments and our own reporting.
We started having cases here about a month ago.
At an R0 of 2.5 and a series interval of 3 with at least 5 people known to have brought it back from elsewhere in my county, we ought to have closer to 50,000 cases in my county alone. Maybe we do, but as someone who works in an emergency room, I'm here to tell you that the number of cases is not what we were expecting based on epidemiological data.
I'm really not trying to downplay this, guys. I was genuinely worried for my own wellbeing and that of my parents for a while there, and I'm just breathing a bit of a sigh of relief.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552700 - 03/23/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: What I added and then koods shat on is decent info that I'll apply to my daily practice, thought it would be good or others
It’s riduculous information. Like your entire respiratory tract is not connected to itself. You get infected in the nose and you breathe through your nose it’s in your lungs. Stop spreading bogus information from your secret highly connected medical geniuses.
You can inhale a larger viral load from someone's cough than the initial viral explosions released in your nose. During thisntime your immune system begins to recognize the virus. Rebut that. Or stop labeling anything you didn't think of as bogus
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