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To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow
    #26552244 - 03/23/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hi everybody. So after my first successful attempt at cultivating b+ and GT I inoculated 6 jars of rye grain with Chitwan and PES Hawaiian liquid spore syringes. I know I'll prob take some heat for this lol... but then I spawned them all together into a giant monotub tek using a mixture of worm castings and manure from a reliable source. Some say the mycelium of different strains will either compete with one another or coexist naturally and thrive. I said fuggit and did it.

Everything looks good to me, I lost two jars due to contam with a yellow slime bottom of jars from too much moisture I believe either from the cook or sitting too long, so I tossed them bitches and didnt even crack the lid.

After sitting for two weeks in darkness spawning the myc RH is sitting at 75-77%, and temp inside tub is now 69°, lights on-off 12hr cycles.

Now the question; should I mist if the rh drops below 75% and pins look a bit dry?? They seemed to start out very slowly and tiny... so I was thinking introduce a bit more fae, but now things look ok but a bit dry... I have ocd with this shit and any input helps me. Thank you all in advance for viewing.

Pics are 1 week now into fruiting conditions with light and fae, after misting with distilled water and hydrogen peroxide 70/30 mixture.



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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey]
    #26552251 - 03/23/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I guess I should've said 2nd grow in the subject line lol... I meant 1st time doing monotub.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey]
    #26552435 - 03/23/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

if you can regulate ventilation,  adjust one to renew 2 volumes of your monotube per hour. And increase RH till 85%
There are optimal\ideal parameters.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Hamsabala]
    #26552600 - 03/23/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You shouldn't need to mist your mono, I've never misted any of mine, I'm not sure why noobs obsess about misting. If your substrate is too dry or caps are cracking, there's probably too much FAE exchange happening. When I used a single layer of micropore tape on the bottom holes of the monotub I would get some cracked caps. So now I use a double layer of micropore tape on the bottom holes and a single layer on the top holes and the humidity is great.

I would consider temperature the most important environmental factor relating to success.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26552620 - 03/23/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok thank you. I'm using polyfill for the holes and that could be the issue with too much fae. I loosened them up when going to fruiting to let more air through. Temp is a steady 69°-70° inside the tub. RH is at 82%. I keep reading not to mist... but if needed... will it hurt them more than benefit?

Based on the pics though, do they look tiny and stunted for being 7 days old? Or they look ok and I just need to remain patient?


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey]
    #26552641 - 03/23/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Worry more about about surface conditions, once the pins start growing they’ll start creating a microclimate on the surface.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: A.k.a]
    #26553126 - 03/23/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Micropore-Surgical-White-Count/dp/B000GCRWOY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=3%22+micropore+tape&qid=1584991030&sr=8-4

I started using this micropore tape over the holes, it's way easier, polyfil sucks.

Over misting may suppress mycelium growth and cause pins to abort.

So your substrate is uncased? It looks weird, maybe you've over-misted, it's hard to tell. If it's un-cased it should be snow white. The pins look healthy, but they should probably be finishing by now if they're 7 days old. If they've stopped growing then I'd be concerned and they've probably aborted.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey] * 1
    #26553415 - 03/23/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Pics are 1 week now into fruiting conditions with light and fae, after misting with distilled water and hydrogen peroxide 70/30 mixture.




did everyone that read this completely miss this?:facepalm3: ditch the hydrogen peroxide...just mist with straight water.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Nikoyo] * 1
    #26553514 - 03/23/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Pics are 1 week now into fruiting conditions with light and fae, after misting with distilled water and hydrogen peroxide 70/30 mixture.




did everyone that read this completely miss this?:facepalm3: ditch the hydrogen peroxide...just mist with straight water.




Lol, I did miss that 🤣

Why are you misting with hydrogen peroxide OP? Are you having issues with cobweb mold?


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26554387 - 03/24/20 03:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Pics are 1 week now into fruiting conditions with light and fae, after misting with distilled water and hydrogen peroxide 70/30 mixture.




did everyone that read this completely miss this?:facepalm3: ditch the hydrogen peroxide...just mist with straight water.




Lol, I did miss that 🤣

Why are you misting with hydrogen peroxide OP? Are you having issues with cobweb mold?




Lol thats just for preventative measures... I dont think it will hurt anything more than doing good.
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https://www.amazon.com/3M-Micropore-Surgical-White-Count/dp/B000GCRWOY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=3%22+micropore+tape&qid=1584991030&sr=8-4

I started using this micropore tape over the holes, it's way easier, polyfil sucks.

Over misting may suppress mycelium growth and cause pins to abort.

So your substrate is uncased? It looks weird, maybe you've over-misted, it's hard to tell. If it's un-cased it should be snow white. The pins look healthy, but they should probably be finishing by now if they're 7 days old. If they've stopped growing then I'd be concerned and they've probably aborted.




Yeah I cased the top before fruiting with a thin layer of vermiculite.

Well 24hrs later and check this shit out... I ate a handful of of what I thought were aborts last night, had amazing closed eye visuals to some meditative beats and trance music... then I woke up this morning to this glorious sight...



What do yall think? Decent first flush??


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey] * 1
    #26554416 - 03/24/20 04:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes Hydrogen Peroxide is why your surface layer looks really bad and dried out. Your nuking you Mycelium.

Just mix with regular water, you can use distilled if it makes you feel safer. I just use tap water. I don't normally mist unless it is needed, but in this case you might do a lightist on the surface around the pins  once to get the surface level moisture up. When the mushroom pins start to grow bigger cut out the misting all together. Like someone previously stated they will create a micro climate once larger.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Sockadin]
    #26554544 - 03/24/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

In my experience with cubes the most important thing is fresh air. They love it. Humidity was just a natural byproduct of growing things in a tub, if my mushrooms and sub weren’t cracking dry they were fine. The more you mess with your grow the more problems created, also from experience lol.

For your next tub you should try to get your substrate nice and even when you spawn. I see some mostly bare dips on both sides down from the middle. Still nice looking mushrooms though 😎


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26555196 - 03/24/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That looks great, congratulations!

Vermiculite is a pretty poor casing material by itself. 50:50 peat moss to verm is way better, or something with a little coco mixed in. I use Jiffy mix seed starter mixed with verm since it's already pH adjusted.

I personally don't see any benefit to casing cubes though. The only strain I ever case is penis envy.


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26555369 - 03/24/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

if you've  followed proper tek for dialing in your tub, misting shouldn't be a problem. I generally hit my tub with a fanning once the first sign of pins have started. besides that pretty much set and forget my friend <3


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: ohfunkya]
    #26555482 - 03/24/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you all mucho mucho for all the great info and tips!! I will def note them all down for my next run.

I'll try to keep this updated if youd like with the following flush/es...  hoping all goes well and no contams pop in there. :thumbup:

Nomnomnom


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey]
    #26555627 - 03/24/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wicked!! looking great :laugh:


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey]
    #26556094 - 03/24/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

SpaceyCasey, congratulations!


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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: Hamsabala]
    #26557303 - 03/25/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Wicked!! looking great :laugh:



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SpaceyCasey, congratulations!




Thank you!!

Update: What in the F is this little guy doing??? Anyone ever see this before? It looks like completely different specie! The caps all wrinkly like a morel lol...



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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: SpaceyCasey]
    #26557312 - 03/25/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To mist or not to mist: Monotub bulk 1st grow [Re: AyePlus]
    #26574735 - 04/03/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Aha! Seems maybe some alcohol got soaked up maybe? I researched and I guess they're still safe to consume.


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