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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: cannabinated]
#26551851 - 03/22/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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and we were hella competative
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: RebeccaBlack] 6
#26551857 - 03/22/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Daijo said: but Turmp said you'd all be victorious!
CA: rhum weed nic salts
Cat in heat again (ffs I read they can get in heat multiple times if not mated, but it's the sixth time already in a few months. Her operation was planned this summer but since Earth is cancelled... Who knows.
Quoting for permanency. This is hilarious. It is very common to be so stoned you post your currently active in the wrong thread in ODD subforum
Never seen someone do it in the pub
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26551865 - 03/22/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Infected people are saying they're losing their sense of smell and taste in early symptoms. This probably means the virus started around their nose / mouth area.
Was just reading about viral load, viral shedding, and inoculum.
Seems the worst way to contract it is breathing it in thru the air from people coughing out large viral loads into the air having it go directly into your lungs instantly. - Stay a way from peoples breath and coughing
If you pick it up from surface, then face mouth touching, it'll start before it reaches your lungs, your body can actually make anti bodies while it's still in the mouth nose area before it reaches the lungs. Then your lungs will be better primed for the virus.
Picking up small quantities of the virus might be good for you
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws] 5
#26551873 - 03/22/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you get infected and are hospitalized, ADVOCATE FOR YOURSELF BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T.
Doctors are more willing to listen to what you have to say than you might think, especially if you can explain your rationale for the treatment you're seeking.
If I were to suddenly develop a severe infection, I would advocate for treatment with remdesivir and losartan. The former has demonstrated a broad range of efficacy against coronaviruses by binding the ssRNA strands before they can bind to cellular mRNA. The latter blocks viral entry into the cell via the human ACE2 receptor.
If they deny you the treatments, record an explanation of why and send it to a lawyer. If you die, at the very least your family can get legal compensation with a halfway decent lawyer.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26551925 - 03/22/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: pisses me off that all these senators are getting tested but most healthcare workers here with known exposure still don't have access
Pisses me off how hard it is to get tested.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: TNK]
#26551952 - 03/22/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just read about the test. It's like an 8 inch qtip that goes all the way up each nostril thru the passages and stuff. It can actually hurt pretty bad, but is at least very uncomfortable
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552025 - 03/22/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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they're not 8 inches in your nostril lol but the procedure can be quite uncomfortable yes
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] 3
#26552039 - 03/22/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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They're doing grain to brain transfers. Notice the white cotton tip is missing after they 'swab' 8 inches into the nostril?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: susurrador] 1
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552143 - 03/23/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: Infected people are saying they're losing their sense of smell and taste in early symptoms. This probably means the virus started around their nose / mouth area.
Was just reading about viral load, viral shedding, and inoculum.
Seems the worst way to contract it is breathing it in thru the air from people coughing out large viral loads into the air having it go directly into your lungs instantly. - Stay a way from peoples breath and coughing
If you pick it up from surface, then face mouth touching, it'll start before it reaches your lungs, your body can actually make anti bodies while it's still in the mouth nose area before it reaches the lungs. Then your lungs will be better primed for the virus.
Picking up small quantities of the virus might be good for you
Like you don’t breathe the air that just came out of your own face 🤦♂️
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26552151 - 03/23/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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that's why lazy breathers die early, an old tantric trick is kundalini breath of fire pulling in the abdominal muscles on exhale to expell the air so far from the body you can't rebreath it!
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: twighead]
#26552153 - 03/23/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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twighead said: that's why lazy breathers die early, an old tantric trick is kundalini breath of fire pulling in the abdominal muscles on exhale to expell the air so far from the body you can't rebreath it!
your sinuses generate nitric oxide + the "dead air" contains co2 which is a vasodialator
you want light breathing with lower back & kidney expansion on inhales... hard to get down, though
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26552200 - 03/23/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: Infected people are saying they're losing their sense of smell and taste in early symptoms. This probably means the virus started around their nose / mouth area.
The onset symptoms seem to be highly variable. Only once the infection has been established for a few days, the image becomes more consistent. But the start seems different for everyone. Cases I have heard of until now commence with one or a combination of the following symptoms: * Mild fever (out of nowhere, basically) * Feelings of general sickness without other apparent symptoms * Common cold symptoms; i.e. runny nose * Gastrointestinal complaints; i.e. mild diarrhea * Momentary aches in random places in the chest/back (surrounding the lungs), accompanied by a sensation of constriction around the chest But again, particularly this early onset seems highly variable.
In mild cases (which are the most common), these evolve over a period of a few days into a fairly consistent image: * Feeling of chest constriction or reduced lung volume (basically mild asthma symptoms) * Dry cough, although sometimes with globs of sputum * Prickly/burning sensation in airways/lungs * Fatigue associated with physical exercise; i.e. you feel tired much more quickly than usual * Mild fever is sometimes noted, but does not seem to be present in many instances
Severe/problematic cases (i.e. the ones that end up in hospital) generally follow the pattern above, i.e. (1) a variable start followed by (2) a few days of the consistent symptoms. However, in these more severe cases, after a few days of mild symptoms, their situation tends to quite suddenly take a turn for the worse, with severe breathing problems, painful lungs, reduced oxygen levels and high fever - basically pneumonia.
This is what I can gather so far from the sources I have access to around me; it's not statistically validated data, but an attempt to qualitatively characterize the patterns that emerge.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koraks]
#26552207 - 03/23/20 01:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I need to lose some fucking weight and stop smoking and fast. I'm also a heart patient. I'll probably start running or something to clear out the old wind bags in my chest.
Then maby try some deep breathing techniques.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26552212 - 03/23/20 01:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any accurate numbers yet??? Bueller Bueller...
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Nichrome]
#26552215 - 03/23/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Darwin23 said: Some Covid-19 Math:
Using my state's infections from day 1 with 1 infection to now with 45, I became curious about predicting the spread (it's only been 2 weeks! If that rate continues the whole state would be infected in 6 weeks).
So Covid-19 has an r0 of 3 (give or take). The incubation period is an average of 5 days and the length of infection is 19 days for mild cases and 25 for severe cases. You can calculate the spread with a more complex method spreading the infections out over the 19 days but for simplicity's sake, I just added the new cases immediately after the incubation period. This would significantly speed up the spread but look at the prediction vs. the results.
Predicted cases after two weeks: 50 Actual cases after two weeks: 45 (with known unidentified infections)
We can't know for sure how many asymptomatic folks are walking around but even if there are only 5, the speed of infection is extreme and the r0 is likely over 3. During the later infections, we had already implemented safety measures! I am going to try it with different states but that's frightening.
There are no accurate numbers to go on. There are not enough tests and without accurate numbers percentages cannot be determined.
Only Dying people are being tested. I have several friends who are symptomatic who have been denied tests multiple times.
There are no accurate numbers. Stop looking at the TV and look out your door at what is really happening.
That's the scary part. The r0 was believed to be between 2.28-3.11 in early tests (especially using the cruise ship) but assuming that a majority of those who have it aren't even being identified, it's likely the r0 is far higher. That's good because it means the death rate is actually lower than we know but it also means the 1*3^X calculation could be like 1*4^X power. Make X 10 and you can see the difference (59,000 vs 1,050,000).
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26552216 - 03/23/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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In the meantime, the sense of urgency has certainly not permeated everywhere. In our apartment, there's a minor problem/leak in a rain-pipe so we contacted a local company to solve it (this was already a few months ago). They had to order some stuff, schedule the works etc. So a few weeks ago, an appointment was made for tomorrow.
Currently, this country (The Netherlands) is at the brink of deciding if social distancing should be expanded more in the direction of a quasi-lockdown, further limiting all sorts of activities.
Would you say that said company actually phoned me to cancel the appointment because it was non-critical? Hell no. So I called them and said I think it wouldn't be wise to perform the work now in my home. "But sir, we already hired people to do the work, why cancel?" "Well ma'am, at this moment, I think it makes sense to cancel any non-critical works anyway given the situation, wouldn't you think?" "Sir, we are a company and we decide such things together with all involved" (no acknowledgement whatsoever of the situation we are in) "Okay ma'am, how would you feel about your people being infected?" "But sir, are you ill?" "Both of us have symptoms." "Sir, you didn't say that!" "I'll give you a call when I think it's safe again, OK" DID I JUST NEED TO RESORT TO MAKING A THREAT IN ORDER TO FORCE A SENSIBLE DECISIONYOU FUCKING CUNT???
So basically, unless we actually force them to, there's always going to be retards like these plumbers who just pretend it's a business as usual situation.
I mean, come on, if someone's toilet is clogged and shit is flowing over the floor, yes, in such a case, I can imagine you do the job that needs to be done. But sending out people to fix an issue that has persisted for months and that has virtually no impact on a household anyway - da fuq?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead]
#26552230 - 03/23/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomhunts said: I think infection is inevitable for the most of us, your best bet is to make sure you are in the best shape you can be, eating a clean diet and getting lots of sunlight. There is no effective treatment for this disease, your body will heal you just need to be ready for a fight. The hospital is not your friend, stay away even if you get sick. Im not spreading fearm im giving my honest advice on how to improve your chances for survival. After you fight off the virus your body will become immune or highly resistant to re infection.
And to all the asswipes hoarding hand sanitier, it dose not kill the virus becuse a virus is not alive in the first place. So quit deystroying the natural bacterial flora that protects your skin.
I like this, being a farmer i mostly shove my hands every now and then in a 50-60c hot compost pile to feel its temp before turning.

My sole sanitizer is water and soap, then a coat of lactic acid afterwards through out the day indoors.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: Asante] 1
#26552234 - 03/23/20 02:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Asante said: A friend of mine very likely has COVID. Because of knowing herbalism he went for chewing licorice root to get at the licorice extract and indeed this seemed to alleviate things for him somewhat.
Licorice root is well known to be effective in respiratory ailments.
Of course he also 5x a day dissolves a teaspoon of neat vitamin C in water and drinks that. That in itself mitigates for instance flu symptoms greatly.
Great report, we ferment such tonic plants in beer then stabilized it with strong liquor. For easier intake specially for our little ones. Its goodies are better extracted in this way, and its potency increases as it age, they've been doin this in korea since the ancient times.
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i have been dosing my family lately during a common cold (1tsp/day) with this three year old root concotion(licorice, angelica, garlic, ginger, turmeric, cinnamon) fermented two weeks in beer(elderberry wine), then stabilized with distilled strong liquor(soju or vodka), Its soothing when it comes to itchy thoat.
I have been mixin this to my livestock water aswell and does a great job, Never had bought any antibiotics for em in past 3 years.

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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koraks]
#26552255 - 03/23/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I woke on Monday morning to find the central heating, gas to radiators, wasn't working. The preasure gauge was down to zero. After doing what needed to be done to raise the preasure, still not working so, fuk it ~ 08:30 I had to phone the council works department to report it. A maintainance guy came round that morning and by ~11:30 the heating was up and running. Somthing had needed replacing.
The guy that I had seen before, usually a chatty sort, was this time noticeably quiet, I think he just wanted to get the job done and get out, breathing as little as possible of the air that I was breathing, a sensible precaution. After he left, I found myself going around the house with a soapy cloth washing every surface, light switch and door handle he might have touched.
Woke this morning to find frost in the back garden and ~4mm of ice in the bird bath. Thank you socialised housing, you lovely commie fuks!
On closer inspection, the ice was more like 2.5 mm.
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