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Subaeruginosa Guide 60
#26552041 - 03/22/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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General Info
Psilocybe subaeruginosa is a saprotrophic mushroom which feeds off ligneous material. It prefers oceanic climate and is present in warm summer temperate climates (Koppen climate types). It requires cool-cold days (not freezing) and ample rain which occur in Australian Autumns and Winters.
Distribution
NSW, VIC, SA, ACT, WA, SE QLD, TAS, NZ
Identifying
Cap: Conical in immaturity (immature specimens called "pins"), convex, often umbonate. Varies in colour, can be yellow, orange, reddish-brown or brown. Displays hygrophanous fading. Stem: White and hollow, firm with fibrous texture. Gills: Cream, tan to dark brown/purple Spore: Purple, purple-brown. Rarely chocolate brown . Bruising: Light to navy blue, pronounced on stem. Cap can have green blotches.
   Examples of pins
   Examples of bluing.
 Example of hygrophanous fading.
Season
April - September Subs have been found from late-February to mid-October, it's all dependent on conditions. After the temperatures have dropped and decent amounts of rain have fallen, there's a chance of finding them. Generally i've found the temperature should be roughly in the range of 5-15 degrees Celsius, at least to start initial fruiting and there should be two rain events. That is 15-20mm should fall in Autumn (March onwards). A few days of exposure to this moisture will cause mycelium to "reawaken", than another rain event should occur of at least 10mm which should trigger fruiting. These rain events should be a cold front which generally last 1-3 days.
Habitat
Habitat is quite variable with some definite common factors. The three common types of habitat are:
• Eucalypt Forests (Native forests, typically areas with green under stories and not scrub-land) • Pine plantations (Favoring areas with greenery, such as grasses and bracken) • Woody mulches (Woodchips of hardwoods (e.g. eucalyptus) and pine, broken up twigs/branches)
Eucalypt forests: Things to look for within Eucalypt forests are: grasses, bracken ferns, rich soil, fallen branches and bark, these all make for a good habitat. This is because a canopy and understory holds moisture in for longer, limits sun exposure hence dropping the temperature at least a little bit. Eucalypt forests are recommended to search if you are a beginner. Eucalypt subs are generally medium-stout and of medium height, though long grasses can cause tall stems. Grasses in eucalypt forests tend to be rank grasses, long tufts or a patchy matt of short thick grass and even mosses. Such vegetation enhances water retention as well as keeps the soil cooler and provides more shade. In eucalypt woodlands there might be eucalypt trees whose bases are littered with fallen bark, which blankets the area round the tree, this can yield subaeruginosa. Fallen bark also provides better water retention and keeps the soil cool, though it may take longer for rain to penetrate and take some time to colonize. It can be worthwhile noting such areas and checking them in following years. It is also advisable to check the perimeter/outskirts of forests/woodlands. At the outskirts vegetation isnt too thick, and the area is more open which allows for more rain to penetrate the soil/woody debris.
     Grassy Eucalyptus forests Subs in Euc forests
Pine plantations are an interesting choice of habitat for subs as they are an introduced species and fruiting is quite random, high yield or low yield. Subs that grow in pine forests are typically long stemmed and thin. Pine plantations are mono-cultures, though if other plants were there previously and have not been destroyed or some other plants have grown there at a later date, it is preferable. In my experience, it is a much better sign when there is more biodiversity in a pine plantation rather than merely a blanket of pine needles. The same factors which enhance eucalypt woodlands also enhance pine plantations : rank grasses, bracken fern, any vegetation and fallen branches. Additionally, I think variations in the terrain such as creeks, hills and valleys are also signs indicating a greater chance of success. These all form microclimates which can be conducive to the fruiting of subaeruginosa. They generally promote water retention, shade, cooler soil and increased water runoff. It can be worth to check areas with vegetation such as grasses or fern on the borders of pine plantations.
    Pine Plantation Fallen Branch Pine w/ undergrowth Sub in pine plantation
Woodchips are a condensed form of what subs like to feed on, wood. These habitats can yield the most per m2. The subs which fruit off woodchips are typically shorter, thick-stemmed and arguably the most potent. It can take longer for woodchip patches to fruit, as they are generally in more populace areas, which have milder conditions than hills and forests. Eucalypt, pine and mixed woodchips (such as a leaf mulch) are all good for subs. Deep laying of woodchips gives more room for growth and aged woodchips are easier to colonize due to nutrients having greater availability. Shade from trees and fences can shield sunlight making an area have more favourable conditions. Ornamental and native shrubbery also provide microclimates such as Lomandra, Agapantha and Hardenbergia. It is advisable to check woodchip patches which at least have the cover of trees and aren't completely exposed to the sun, shrubbery (even weeds and tufts of grasses) are a bonus.
     Landscaped gardens With Eucalypt foliage Subs on Woodchips
Photography tips
* Choose an appropriate resolution. My camera has limited options, 2048 x 1536 is my favorite. Decent size but not too big. *Learn to hold the camera still as possible as you are taking the shot. * Take several photographs, this can compensate for the last point to a degree. Always take multiple shots. *To add to the last two points take multiple shots from several different angles. Also slightly adjust the angle or distance of the current position. Move back a little bit. Sometimes you just can't get a good shot from a certain distance or angle so a slight adjustment can fix this. * Pay attention to the display on the camera, it is a good indication of whether the shot is in focus. *Pick your day, not as essential, but I prefer to go on an overcast day after or before rains. The mushrooms won't be overly reflective and covered in water or excess sunshine causing overexposure. You can't always control this and this is my preference for the perfect shot.
Gallery Eucalyptus Woodlands
       
Woodchips/Woody Debris
       
The purpose of this is guide is to finding this and similair mushrooms for photography purposes only.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26552500 - 03/23/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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When photographing mushrooms, use the macro function on your camera, mine has 3 different sized leaves with the largest being the macro. Some will have flowers or something, also play with the white balance and lighting on your camera, it makes all the difference when taking pictures of white objects. Great suggestions, thank you for taking the time to give back to the community.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: Doc9151]
#26555922 - 03/24/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Much appreciated Doc and thanks for the tip! I hope to add more the guide and edit it when I think of more stuff and have more observations.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26555938 - 03/24/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice guide mate.
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Edited by R3dstaffy (07/23/20 04:11 PM)
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26601687 - 04/14/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks man, as a total newb that was awesome in pointing me in the right direction.
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now you have to make one for alutacea and one for purpuratus
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Quote:
tryptonite said: now you have to make one for alutacea and one for purpuratus
It'd be nice to find em first.
Bob has you covered though: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22172072/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26620617 - 04/22/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Best subbie guide. Thanks heaps mate!
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: ImInATrip]
#26623303 - 04/23/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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No problem, hope it helps.
As a side note if anyone finds the guide useful, likes the information in it etc, could you please upvote it by hitting the plus symbol at the top of the first post?
Update: I changed/added some information in the season section regarding conditions for triggering fruiting.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26623393 - 04/23/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great guide
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Mad Guide. Those Eucalyptus pics look familiar, though they could be anywhere.
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Fantastic guide. Many thanks for putting the time in to make this.
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You left out the ACT in the locations bit..

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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: The Thing]
#26636036 - 04/29/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haha. Thanks mate, added!
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26636079 - 04/29/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is gold 👌 awesome mate cheers.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: FATY] 1
#26636284 - 04/29/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've been meaning to fav this thread so it's easier to share, I may just add it to my signature if that's ok with you OOISI
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: Doc9151] 1
#26636726 - 04/29/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Beautiful pics & AWESOME write up 00ISI!!
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: Doc9151]
#26637524 - 04/29/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Doc9151 said: I've been meaning to fav this thread so it's easier to share, I may just add it to my signature if that's ok with you OOISI
It would be an honour!
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26637922 - 04/29/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Excellent guide, thanks for your efforts. Added my vote.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: magoogle] 1
#26638116 - 04/30/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great. Can you stumble across these in your average park amongst the community? Also Does anyone know if there is a 'peak' month that these guys choose to grow?? Like May or June.... I've been looking high and low and found many species BUT the subaerigonasa!
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: hotsauce]
#26638119 - 04/30/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes you can, in Adelaide its quite rare to find them in the suburbs. In Melbourne they are prolific.
Peak is June id say with May and July also excellent.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26680606 - 05/19/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thankyou for this information legends
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26696490 - 05/26/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Done!!!
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OOISI said:
As a side note if anyone finds the guide useful, likes the information in it etc, could you please upvote it by hitting the plus symbol at the top of the first post?
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Photographing fungi is such a joy!
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Great guide!!
I would add their dislike for some other ground coverings, in particular what we call Pigface down here in Tassie, Carpobrotus rossii, which has triangular leaves.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26703446 - 05/29/20 04:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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OOISI this guide I found extremely informative , very very helpful!!! Cheers dude 👍🏼
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: Eatn]
#26715957 - 06/03/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What types of forests do people find subs in New Zealand? are pine plantations and eucalypt forests present in NZ?
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26717673 - 06/03/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge, great guide and valuable resource !
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI] 1
#26812887 - 07/09/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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OOISI said: What types of forests do people find subs in New Zealand? are pine plantations and eucalypt forests present in NZ?
We have lots of pine forests, I haven't personally seen them there but I assume they are. Lots of people talk about urban woodchip gardens in parks. I have also picked them in my youth up in the mountains, in treeless paddocks with cattle in them. They subs were often in the cow poos. This appears to break the "subs always on wood" rule.
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: Zifozonke]
#27820249 - 06/15/22 02:49 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zifozonke said: Beautiful pics & AWESOME write up 00ISI!!
Thank you
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI]
#27832489 - 06/23/22 02:51 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Hi all - just wanting to know what kind of poisonous mushrooms are in Victoria that look like subs. I'm aware of galerina lookalikes. Do we have any cortinarius species that could be mistaken for subs, or anything else? TIA
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: Martian3]
#27892983 - 08/06/22 08:35 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Can anyone tell me if these are the mushrooms I am looking for, or are they just straight up poisonous? Thanks a lot. Found in Tasmania
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Aqua Kahuna please create your own thread for each ID request instead of asking in another thread.
While your post contains no photos, your account has two photos in the user gallery. They are not in focus and I'm not certain of what they are but they are definitely not Psilocybe subaeruginosa sorry.
Anyway, welcome to the Shroomery.
Edited by Mycoangulo (08/06/22 09:29 PM)
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI]
#28089603 - 12/08/22 11:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks OOISI
I wont start looking just yet!!
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Re: Subaeruginosa Guide [Re: OOISI]
#28387064 - 07/06/23 11:52 AM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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Excellent article and pictures, great job.
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excellent work brother
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