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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 1
#27073656 - 12/05/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: Fauci wasn't in the dark when it came to HCQ.
NIH
Also, not in the dark when it came to zinc.
The Role of Zinc in Antiviral Immunity Scott A Read et al. Adv Nutr. 2019.
Nor was faucet Fauci in the dark when it came to vitamin C.
In contrast, treatment of established infections requires significantly higher (gram) doses of the vitamin to compensate for the increased inflammatory response and metabolic demand.
Agreed.
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HamHead said: Yet, the head of NIH, who should be looking out for our health, would rather everyone wear a mask and wait for a vaccine which will not prevent viral transmission but only reduce symptoms of Covid.
Masks actually protect others more than they protect the wearer. If people sneeze into a mask they are wearing, for example, the droplets get stopped from flying all over the place. If people with a mask get sneezed on, on the other hand, the droplets could still get into their eyes, for example.
So I like to see others wearing a mask for my own safety.
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HamHead said: A virus so deadly people have to be tested to ever have known they're infected.
I knew the first person in the US who died of Covid. Any my secretary had a very close call with death from it, while it killed her father.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: What do mean? I said we need to accept whatever the science tells us. Not "NOOOO! We must make believe this can never work because Trump said it might."
I give a fuck what trump said... Stop making stories
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: What do mean? I said we need to accept whatever the science tells us. Not "NOOOO! We must make believe this can never work because Trump said it might."
I give a fuck what trump said... Stop making stories
I don't know what you mean, can you explain?
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You think because trump said it is why people are writing it off. That's a story you tell yourself. You're not better at science than anyone else posting here. Nor are you all that great at comprehending science and articles.
You say it to rationalize why people write you off
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
#27073704 - 12/05/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: Peer reviewed
Retrospective studies are pretty useless
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koods said: lol Zelenko. That guy is a total crackpot
As per usual, insults instead of rational discussion.
I really don't care about the results; it's just funny to see how so many people who claim they side with science, are desperate not to study this one, because Trump thought it might turn out to be favorable.
Zelenko is a snake oil salesman
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] 1
#27073718 - 12/05/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am out of snake oil.
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Sorry, dr. Zelenko isn’t practicing anymore.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] 1
#27073867 - 12/05/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said:
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HamHead said: Peer reviewed
Retrospective studies are pretty useless

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koods said: lol Zelenko. That guy is a total crackpot
As per usual, insults instead of rational discussion.
I really don't care about the results; it's just funny to see how so many people who claim they side with science, are desperate not to study this one, because Trump thought it might turn out to be favorable.
Zelenko is a snake oil salesman
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koods said: Sorry, dr. Zelenko isn’t practicing anymore.
I wonder why.
https://forbetterscience.com/2020/10/29/zelenko-and-raoult-fall-in-each-others-arms/
I bet he left because of others ignorance. India widely uses HCQ, as much of the world's supply of HCQ is produced in India.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 2
#27073868 - 12/05/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's going on a year since this all got going and HamHead still knows better than all the doctors and researchers of the world.
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christopera said: It's going on a year since this all got going and HamHead still knows better than all the doctors and researchers of the world.
Stupid words like all.
You speak as if every single medical professional thinks exactly the same.
You are mistaken.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 4
#27073917 - 12/05/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every single medical professional does not think the same. Same as every climate scientist. But a consensus exists in both of those communities, and the outliers don't really compromise the consensus, except in the minds who put their social beliefs above science.
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Did you see that UFO footage released?
Think that shit is real?
How many deny aliens?
Flat earth was a thing, before science proved otherwise.
Lead poisoning was a thing, before science.
Poison mushrooms were a thing, until scientists monkeys ate them and others watched them die, and learned not to eat that mushroom.
HCQ is a thing, used for 65 years, with through knowledge of toxic doses, yet trials were set up giving toxic doses to sick paitents, and those trials were said to be how it is. Until retracted.
PCR test are not reliable for diagnosis and the creator of said PCR test says just that. Too bad he's dead.
Dr. Fauci admits the PCR test for coronavirus is all but useless as it is administered in the US.
"“It starts making you believe in the sort of Buddhist notion that everything is contained in everything else. If you can amplify one single molecule up to something you can really measure, which PCR can do, then there is just very few molecules that you don’t have at least one single one of in your body.”
Mullis then addresses the question of what should be considered meaningful, which is the central issue with the use of the PCR tests. Do the ‘case’ numbers being used around the world by governments to impose police states and egregious lockdowns of the population, especially in my home state of Victoria, actually mean anything? The answer seems to be ‘no’:
“That could be thought of as a misuse: to claim that it [a PCR test] is meaningful. It tells you something about nature and what is there. To test for that one thing and say it has a special meaning is, I think, the problem. The measurement for it is not exact; it is not as good as the measurement for apples. The tests are based on things that are invisible and the results are inferred in a sense. It allows you to take a miniscule amount of anything and make it measureable and then talk about it.”"
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 4
#27073988 - 12/05/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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christopera said: It's going on a year since this all got going and HamHead still knows better than all the doctors and researchers of the world.
Stupid words like all.
You speak as if every single medical professional thinks exactly the same.
You are mistaken.
You aren't even a medical professional, you are just a guy who won't shut up about HCQ.
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Hamhead is a bigpharma plant here to shill their products. He'd make a great oxycontin salesman for Purdue
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
#27074009 - 12/05/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: There's no discussion he's a known hack. Demonstrably so. Defending his credibility is where you need to start a discussion. If and when you have something compelling come back
Link(s) showing Zelenko being a "known hack"?
So that guy says he was successful with the hudroxyfuckyou, and you believe him just because he says so....
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mndfreeze said: Hamhead is a bigpharma plant here to shill their products. He'd make a great oxycontin salesman for Purdue
No.
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christopera said: It's going on a year since this all got going and HamHead still knows better than all the doctors and researchers of the world.
Stupid words like all.
You speak as if every single medical professional thinks exactly the same.
You are mistaken.
You aren't even a medical professional, you are just a guy who won't shut up about HCQ.
I don't have to be a medical professional to have attention.
https://hcqtrial.com/
Too bad it's been demonized by Fauci.
Image what a 69.9% REDUCED mortality rate would look like in the USA.
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bodhisatta said: There's no discussion he's a known hack. Demonstrably so. Defending his credibility is where you need to start a discussion. If and when you have something compelling come back
Link(s) showing Zelenko being a "known hack"?
So that guy says he was successful with the hudroxyfuckyou, and you believe him just because he says so....
I believe the mechanism of action of HCQ and it's ability to allow zinc to penetrate into a cell to prevent viral replication.
Zelenko only directed towards valuable info about zinc and zinc ionophores, after doing his own research into what other countries have been using.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
#27074040 - 12/05/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: Peer reviewed
Retrospective studies are pretty useless

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koods said: lol Zelenko. That guy is a total crackpot
As per usual, insults instead of rational discussion.
I really don't care about the results; it's just funny to see how so many people who claim they side with science, are desperate not to study this one, because Trump thought it might turn out to be favorable.
Zelenko is a snake oil salesman
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koods said: Sorry, dr. Zelenko isn’t practicing anymore.
I wonder why.
https://forbetterscience.com/2020/10/29/zelenko-and-raoult-fall-in-each-others-arms/
I bet he left because of others ignorance. India widely uses HCQ, as much of the world's supply of HCQ is produced in India.
Quinolones and fluoroquinolones are terrible for you. Tendon ruptures and fucking up the dna that controls your collagen production. Id never take that shit. Those kinds of antibiotics usually have a black box warning that tells you you probably shouldnt take them unless you have the bubonic plague, anthrax or are on your deathbed from pneumonia. https://www.google.com/search?q=are+quinolones+dangerous&oq=quinolones+are+da&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30i457j0i22i30l2j0i10i22i30.5762j0j9&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Seriously you parrots are dangerous.
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Sulfurshelfsean said: Quinolones and fluoroquinolones are terrible for you. Tendon ruptures and fucking up the dna that controls your collagen production. Id never take that shit. Those kinds of antibiotics usually have a black box warning that tells you you probably shouldnt take them unless you have the bubonic plague, anthrax or are on your deathbed from pneumonia. [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=are quinolones dangerous&oq=quinolones are da&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30i457j0i22i30l2j0i10i22i30.5762j0j9&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8]https://www.google.com/search?q=are quinolones dangerous&oq=quinolones are da&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30i457j0i22i30l2j0i10i22i30.5762j0j9&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8[/url] Seriously you parrots are dangerous.
Huh?
Quinolones and fluoroquinolones?
What are those? Where are you getting that from?
Azithromycin
Seriously, I don't recognize any drugs on this list.
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