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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27073461 - 12/05/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Tony Fauci is a licensed physician šŸ˜’



I'm glad we were able to establish that. :lol:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D] * 1
    #27073475 - 12/05/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Covid replaced heart disease as the number one cause of death in the U.S. this week.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27073487 - 12/05/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/the-skeptical-scalpel-awards/

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Our next second-place awardee is Dr. Vladimir ā€œZevā€ Zelenko, family practitioner and major proponent of the use of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin to treat COVID -19. Among his claims is that he treated anywhere from 300 to 1450 COVID-19 patients. Of 405 high risk patients treated early in the course of their illnesses, there were ā€œ2 deaths, four on respirators. The rest recovered fully.ā€ Those are mighty impressive numbers, but no one else has seen the data. It should come as no surprise that the fact checking website Snopes was unable to substantiate his claims.

After community leaders in the town where he practiced criticized him for spreading misinformation, Zelenko decided to leave his practice—destination unknown.





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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27073495 - 12/05/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Tony Fauci is a licensed physician šŸ˜’




When was the last time faucet Fauci actually saw a patient?

Fauci was not on the ground treating people, unlike those frontline doctors who were seeing patients in their clinics.




He sees patients everyday. The clinical center at NIH has hundreds of patients. It’s the largest research hospital in the US. How is it possible that you never post anything accurate?



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27073527 - 12/05/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
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koods said:
Tony Fauci is a licensed physician šŸ˜’




When was the last time faucet Fauci actually saw a patient?

Fauci was not on the ground treating people, unlike those frontline doctors who were seeing patients in their clinics.




He sees patients everyday. The clinical center at NIH has hundreds of patients. It’s the largest research hospital in the US. How is it possible that you never post anything accurate?






:lolsy:

Ok. Every day he says.





Think Fauci is able to see patients having to do these testimonials?

I, doubt it.



Go ahead, discredit it all koods.

Where is NIH?

Think Fauci has a taxi service that shuttles him across this country back and forth so he can make his rounds at NIH?

:nojustno:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27073528 - 12/05/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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https://www.physiciansweekly.com/the-skeptical-scalpel-awards/

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Our next second-place awardee is Dr. Vladimir ā€œZevā€ Zelenko, family practitioner and major proponent of the use of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin to treat COVID -19. Among his claims is that he treated anywhere from 300 to 1450 COVID-19 patients. Of 405 high risk patients treated early in the course of their illnesses, there were ā€œ2 deaths, four on respirators. The rest recovered fully.ā€ Those are mighty impressive numbers, but no one else has seen the data. It should come as no surprise that the fact checking website Snopes was unable to substantiate his claims.

After community leaders in the town where he practiced criticized him for spreading misinformation, Zelenko decided to leave his practice—destination unknown.







After that Snopes article came out, this came out:

Newly Published Outpatient Study Finds that Early Use of Zinc, Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Is Associated with Less Hospitalizations and Death


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27073538 - 12/05/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

NIH is in Bethesda, Md, across the street from Walter Reed and about 6 miles from the White House. I doubt Fauci spends anytime outside the DC area.


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ā€œif I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to herā€


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27073540 - 12/05/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Let us know when it gets reviewed.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27073542 - 12/05/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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https://www.physiciansweekly.com/the-skeptical-scalpel-awards/

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Our next second-place awardee is Dr. Vladimir ā€œZevā€ Zelenko, family practitioner and major proponent of the use of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin to treat COVID -19. Among his claims is that he treated anywhere from 300 to 1450 COVID-19 patients. Of 405 high risk patients treated early in the course of their illnesses, there were ā€œ2 deaths, four on respirators. The rest recovered fully.ā€ Those are mighty impressive numbers, but no one else has seen the data. It should come as no surprise that the fact checking website Snopes was unable to substantiate his claims.

After community leaders in the town where he practiced criticized him for spreading misinformation, Zelenko decided to leave his practice—destination unknown.







After that Snopes article came out, this came out:

Newly Published Outpatient Study Finds that Early Use of Zinc, Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Is Associated with Less Hospitalizations and Death




lol Zelenko. That guy is a total crackpot


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27073563 - 12/05/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He's worse than paul stamets


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27073567 - 12/05/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Covid replaced heart disease as the number one cause of death in the U.S. this week.




Shoveling McDoubles into my mouth in order to hasten our return to normalcy.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27073568 - 12/05/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Double quarter pounder with "cheese"


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27073572 - 12/05/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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lol Zelenko. That guy is a total crackpot



As per usual, insults instead of rational discussion.

I really don't care about the results; it's just funny to see how so many people who claim they side with science, are desperate not to study this one, because Trump thought it might turn out to be favorable.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] * 1
    #27073573 - 12/05/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27073575 - 12/05/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's no discussion he's a known hack. Demonstrably so. Defending his credibility is where you need to start a discussion. If and when you have something compelling come back


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #27073579 - 12/05/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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There's no discussion he's a known hack. Demonstrably so. Defending his credibility is where you need to start a discussion. If and when you have something compelling come back




Link(s) showing Zelenko being a "known hack"?


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27073584 - 12/05/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:  You beat me to it.

Why can't people just accept the science, whatever it may be?

"Trump thinks this may have potential.  We must bad mouth it!"


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27073593 - 12/05/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You think you're the most educated and correct about the science of all the people here? And you're enlightening us and most doctors are in the dark to things you know?


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27073600 - 12/05/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What do mean?  I said we need to accept whatever the science tells us.  Not "NOOOO!  We must make believe this can never work because Trump said it might."


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27073623 - 12/05/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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You think you're the most educated and correct about the science of all the people here? And you're enlightening us and most doctors are in the dark to things you know?




Fauci wasn't in the dark when it came to HCQ.

NIH

Also, not in the dark when it came to zinc.

The Role of Zinc in Antiviral Immunity Scott A Read et al. Adv Nutr. 2019.

Nor was faucet Fauci in the dark when it came to vitamin C.

In contrast, treatment of established infections requires significantly higher (gram) doses of the vitamin to compensate for the increased inflammatory response and metabolic demand.

Yet, the head of NIH, who should be looking out for our health, would rather everyone wear a mask and wait for a vaccine which will not prevent viral transmission but only reduce symptoms of Covid.

A virus so deadly people have to be tested to ever have known they're infected.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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