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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ezuma]
    #27047619 - 11/19/20 06:05 PM (13 days, 11 hours ago)

4 on 1, I see.

Good, on death grounds.

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feevers said:
Yes, all those countries all over the world are taking common sense measures to slow the spread of a deadly pandemic virus solely to spite soon to be former US president Donald Trump.

There’s also no possible way that the braindead assholes not wearing masks and refusing to abide by simple precautions are leading to tens of millions of people not feeling safe to go to work or shop at stores and contribute to the economy. Things would be just peachy if we all just pretended nothing was happening.

It boggles my mind the length people will go to just to deny a reality that they don’t like.




**cough** **cough** Sweden **cough**

Your argument is bunk.

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Hamhead, as usual, has lost the plot




Bold of you to assume he ever had it to begin with




Oh, I had it, back when I made a T shirt face mask thread, and was told it would not help me. Then I saw the surgeon General hold up a T shirt that said "Got Naxlone". That's when they lost me.

What ever happened that opioid epidemic? Just sorta faded away, eh?

It's not my fault there are people who are slow to progress. I remember wearing a mask in my grocery store in April and I was the only person wearing one.

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Hamhead, as usual, has lost the plot




How? koods mentioned cases in NYC, I provide evidence of cases surging. koods then flips the convo to mortality rates, so I point that out and attempt to bring him back his original statements, which he then turns again to mortality.

What's fhe plot again? Shut down, wear mask, destroy economy, cause poverty, Orange man bad.

Who's lost?




I also posted the data for new cases, showing NY’s level of new infections is 6x lower than S.D.

I covered all the bases




Good job, here's a cookie. About time you posted something relevant instead of insults.

Are you feeling ok, koods?


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Hamhead, as usual, has lost the plot




How? koods mentioned cases in NYC, I provide evidence of cases surging. koods then flips the convo to mortality rates, so I point that out and attempt to bring him back his original statements, which he then turns again to mortality.

What's fhe plot again? Shut down, wear mask, destroy economy, cause poverty, Orange man bad.

Who's lost?




it would be easier for you if you actually read Koods' responses, then you could answer your own question




I'm not interested.

Koods is all about that case, that case, that case, no mortality.

I've been going on and on about low mortality rates and it's only now koods wants to bring up the flat line NYC has seen these past months?

:popcorn:


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27047638 - 11/19/20 06:21 PM (13 days, 11 hours ago)

Sweden's earlier heard immunity strategy worked so well that earlier this week they had to ban gatherings of more than 8 people, are mandating that bars and restaurants close early, and the prime minister is now begging people to stay home and not go to bars, gyms, libraries etc.  Their economy has already shrunk 9% during covid and they're expecting this current wave and the winter to tank it much further. Their death rate is several times higher than their neighbors. They're totally a shining example of how to handle a pandemic.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers]
    #27047738 - 11/19/20 07:32 PM (13 days, 10 hours ago)

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Sweden's earlier heard immunity strategy worked so well that earlier this week they had to ban gatherings of more than 8 people, are mandating that bars and restaurants close early, and the prime minister is now begging people to stay home and not go to bars, gyms, libraries etc.  Their economy has already shrunk 9% during covid and they're expecting this current wave and the winter to tank it much further. Their death rate is several times higher than their neighbors. They're totally a shining example of how to handle a pandemic.





:teareally:

11? Also appears cases are already on the fall, those lockdowns worked immediately.

:goodluckwiththat:



NYC, back in lockdowns. Cases will surge. Sick building syndrome.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27047753 - 11/19/20 07:38 PM (13 days, 10 hours ago)

Why do COVID-19 deaths in Sweden always appear to decrease in the last 10 days?
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-sweden-death-reporting


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27047757 - 11/19/20 07:39 PM (13 days, 10 hours ago)

Damn dude, if you feel this is made up (or overblown)....can you tell me why both the government and the media, are doing this?


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #27047787 - 11/19/20 07:51 PM (13 days, 9 hours ago)

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Damn dude, if you feel this is made up (or overblown)....can you tell me why both the government and the media, are doing this?




This.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers]
    #27047796 - 11/19/20 07:54 PM (13 days, 9 hours ago)

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Why do COVID-19 deaths in Sweden always appear to decrease in the last 10 days?
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-sweden-death-reporting




https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/our-world-in-data/

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27047813 - 11/19/20 08:04 PM (13 days, 9 hours ago)

The website is irrelevant, it's information and graphs directly from the european cdc on how they report the data. I'm sure the european cdc leans slightly left as well, nearly all organizations that employ intelligent people do. Facts, science, and reality are now increasingly being considered left wing propaganda.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers]
    #27047834 - 11/19/20 08:16 PM (13 days, 9 hours ago)

:whateveryousayfreak:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27047847 - 11/19/20 08:27 PM (13 days, 9 hours ago)

Instead of responding to the exact reason for why deaths appear to be falling in Sweden (but are actually not), you just source checked an article that was a fully cited summary of objective information from the european cdc. You really don't seem to have any capacity for rational debate.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers]
    #27047892 - 11/19/20 08:53 PM (13 days, 8 hours ago)

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You really don't seem to have any capacity for rational debate.




Yeah?

You're a Karen!

:pleasetellmemore:

Some people would rather insult than debate.

Also, it's hard to debate having to walk on egg shells of rhetoric. I have to be careful with what I say, or those in power who disagree will silence me.

I try to debate here and have only been told I'm wrong, wear a mask, you're stupid.

So, want to debate Sweden?

What's your arguments?

Mine are no lockdowns, no mask mandates, schools remain open, no economic catastrophes, all while following a very similar "curve" of many other countries. Same as they've always been.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27047914 - 11/19/20 09:01 PM (13 days, 8 hours ago)

Is Karen a flame or flamethrower?


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] * 1
    #27047927 - 11/19/20 09:07 PM (13 days, 8 hours ago)

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If herd immunity is possible. The immunology of this disease is still not understood, and there are many known instances of people getting sick from the virus multiple times. I sincerely hope herd immunity is possible, and that the virus doesn't mutate.




Actual infections produce different levels of immunity based on a persons own response and the seriousness of their own infections. Asymptomatic infections tend to produce fleeting immunity, where detectable antibodies only last a month or two. The immunity produced by a vaccine will be much more robust and longer lasting. The vaccine data so far is excellent and there’s plenty of reason to believe vaccines will end the pandemic by the middle of next year

Throwing in the towel now is insane. We should go into lock down now for three weeks to end this wave and mandate masks nationwide. We should close bars, gyms and restaurants to indoor dining until we get 50% of the population immunized. It’s not that difficult. People need to stop being such snowflakes. The virus doesn’t care about your hurt feelings that you can’t do thanksgiving this year.




I love how you say all this like you are some authority on the subject. I've heard physicians say the vaccine is dangerous because it only prevents symptoms, but doesn't prevent you from spreading the virus. So basically it increases the likelihood of asymptomatic spread.

Stop being a snowflake about healthy people not being scared of getting an exaggerated cold. Just because you're too lazy to eat properly and exercise doesn't mean I need to inject some mystery potion into my bloodstream.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D]
    #27047973 - 11/19/20 09:48 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

Here we go! Comprehend this!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

"The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February."

Enjoy your lockdowns. Read it real hard now.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27047977 - 11/19/20 09:52 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

https://www.rt.com/news/504219-danish-mask-study-rejected-coronavirus/

Let's debate!

"Curiously, at the start of the pandemic, many health officials and organizations urged against widespread mask use in the general public, describing such policies as ineffective. For example, in a March interview, Dr. Anthony Fauci, a member of the White House Covid-19 task force, insisted there was no reason for seemingly healthy people to be “walking around in a mask.” At the time, his views reflected a wide consensus among medical institutions and professionals, including the World Health Organization (WHO), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the US surgeon general. Fauci, the WHO, and the CDC later reversed their recommendations and supported mask mandates. "


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


Edited by HamHead (11/19/20 09:54 PM)


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D] * 1
    #27048042 - 11/19/20 10:39 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

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I've heard physicians say the vaccine is dangerous because it only prevents symptoms, but doesn't prevent you from spreading the virus. So basically it increases the likelihood of asymptomatic spread.




Could you point me in the direction of the writing of some of these physicians, I love listening to quackery almost as I love listening to Evangelical con men. Or did a couple of doctors you know personally mention this to you in which case it's my loss.

Cause that's not what Fauci said when it was reported by Yahoo that way. So if you have a doctor saying specifically that I'd love to listen to that guy all day. And I'm guessing the doctor didn't say that it increases the likelihood of asymptomatic spread, but if he did that would be a bonus.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: falcon]
    #27048072 - 11/19/20 11:04 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

https://thehighwire.com/watch/

Episode 190 today, is a good one. James Corbett gives an interesting interview.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27048100 - 11/19/20 11:38 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

Any chance for a transcript?


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: falcon]
    #27048118 - 11/19/20 11:54 PM (13 days, 5 hours ago)

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Any chance for a transcript?




It's two hours long.

Pay attention.

The Highwire has been ahead of the Covid curve with lots of great information.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27048123 - 11/20/20 12:00 AM (13 days, 5 hours ago)



Oh jeez, going to have to finish this one tomorrow. Getting to be my bed time.

Just an old crazy kook, no intellectual abilities whatsoever.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF


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