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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
    #26651752 - 05/05/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Normally, people that are not investigated don;t get their records seized.



Corsi got his records seized because of fraud regarding the the Zelenko cocktail?  Source, or make believe?

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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26651768 - 05/05/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I’m looking for a source that it does work.

You provided an article in some obscure website based on nothing but the word of a doctor who is claiming results that are not credible.

I provided credible research that demonstrated that HCQ, regardless of the exact “cocktail”, is associated with worse outcomes.

There’s also the fact this doctor is associated with Jerome Corsi, who doesn’t have a great track record of being involved in legitimate enterprises.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #26651782 - 05/05/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I’m looking for a source that it does work.



It's WAY too early for a definitive study.

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You provided an article in some obscure website based on nothing but the word of a doctor who is claiming results that are not credible.



Two different doctors, actually.  But of course they might be lying.  That's why I'm asking if there's proof the Zelenko cocktail doesn't work.

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I provided credible research that demonstrated that HCQ, regardless of the exact “cocktail”, is associated with worse outcomes.



No, not regardless of cocktail, oh great King of Make Believe.  You haven't shown a study with zinc.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26651789 - 05/05/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Normally, people that are not investigated don;t get their records seized.



Corsi got his records seized because of fraud regarding the the Zelenko cocktail?  Source, or make believe?

The battle for King is ON!




I wasn’t really familiar with Corsi’s activities, but if he was promoting Zelenko’s protocol to covid patients, then that activity may be illegal since marketing of a drug for an unapproved use is illegal. It really depends on what Corsi was doing for Zelenko. We know there was an investigation and Corsi said it was based on confusion over a misrepresentation of FDA approval status.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #26651792 - 05/05/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So no proof of Corsi's records being seized?  I thought not.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26651839 - 05/05/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I’m looking for a source that it does work.



It's WAY too early for a definitive study.

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koods said:
You provided an article in some obscure website based on nothing but the word of a doctor who is claiming results that are not credible.



Two different doctors, actually.  But of course they might be lying.  That's why I'm asking if there's proof the Zelenko cocktail doesn't work.

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I provided credible research that demonstrated that HCQ, regardless of the exact “cocktail”, is associated with worse outcomes.



No, not regardless of cocktail, oh great King of Make Believe.  You haven't shown a study with zinc.




The idea that the HCQ would work if only for zinc supplementation ignores the fact that most people have dietary sources of zinc. People who are hospitalized are monitored for defiencies of essential nutrients - nobody in hospital is going to slip into a zinc deficiency, and if they aren’t eating they are getting zinc supplementation.

And while HCQ may help cells use zinc more efficiently, zinc isn’t going to make the HCQ less toxic.

In the end, the doctor’s claims are simply not credible and he’s involved with people with terrible reputations. Trustworthy doctors don’t promote unproven treatments through the media. They don’t misrepresent their research.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26651843 - 05/05/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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So no proof of Corsi's records being seized?  I thought not.




Who cares. There was an investigation. Corsi was involved. He handed over the records. You insist on arguing about the most insignificant semantic details.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #26651872 - 05/05/20 10:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You insist on taking a story and adding make believe to it.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26652466 - 05/06/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The HC cocktail doesn't work for people with Orange Man Butt Hurt Syndrome....:smug:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26652749 - 05/06/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going to avoid whatever the Orange mans says when he's talking out his butt and hopefully be treated if need be by something that shakes out of the research done with a little more thought put into it than just what will make a few bucks if there's a patent involved in treatment.

Something like this, https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/New-UCSF-study-finds-potential-drugs-for-treating-15235804.php, inspires some confidence that someone is doing something that may shorten my stay at home without putting me in undue risk.

I wish Trump would just go to a golf course somewhere and stay there, take Kushner and his daughter with him and Pence would stay in church and pray for everyone.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26652755 - 05/06/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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This is why we need a study.




And it will absolutely have to be peer reviewed.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: falcon] * 1
    #26652759 - 05/06/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

We should study if prayer and zinc sulfate improves outcomes


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #26652766 - 05/06/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I can think of a few people that wouldn't be gumming up the works if they were praying rather than running things.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #26652888 - 05/06/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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We should study if prayer and zinc sulfate improves outcomes



:dudewtf:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26653034 - 05/06/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Last day of work today. Been doing my own thing since 2009.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26653058 - 05/06/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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We should study if prayer and zinc sulfate improves outcomes



:dudewtf:




Dude, studies show prayer doesn’t work by itsel. You need zinc and nobody has ever studied that.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #26653072 - 05/06/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, feel free to study it then.  :whatever:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #26653869 - 05/06/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Why sulfate?  Why not citrate or acetate?

I think people should go ahead and pray if they want to.  That said, I've been zincing it up since Jan along with assorted elderberry/flower products and V Clear EPs 7630.  Also licorice root tea.  Pretty much the kitchen sink of what I could find with any supported benefit against known coronaviruses.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26654563 - 05/07/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Is this shit still happening? Weird, zero new cases in Humboldt County for weeks, yet we all walk around in masks still. Boogeyman gonna get ya...


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D]
    #26654572 - 05/07/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Did 2.2 million Americans die yet???


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