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oculodextro said: Ok, but we still don't use antibiotics on a prophylactic basis.
Well, they WILL be using it in the clinical trial. Maybe it won't be used on a prophylactic basis, maybe it will only be used on people who have already developed pneumonia?
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"The safety and scientific validity of this study is the responsibility of the study sponsor and investigators. Listing a study does not mean it has been evaluated by the U.S. Federal Government. Know the risks and potential benefits of clinical studies and talk to your health care provider before participating. Read our disclaimer for details. "
Directly at the top of the page. Do you have any background in medicine?
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Yes, I saw the disclaimer. It's on every single trial. What point you're trying to make?
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I think prophylactic antibiotics are somewhat standard when someone is on a mechanical ventilator.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#26647263 - 05/04/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just looked it up - you're right.
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Stable Genius said: Mike Pompeo wtf?
Is this another WMD moment?
It was a classic communist disinformation effort. Clearly.
What is our excuse for every disinformation campaign we have ever launched?
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Oh wait. I figured it out. Self interest.
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It's being reported as that too, that this
1. has more to do with U.S. domestic politics, and
2. so far no evidence has been put forward
It was quite brazen, the way he answered the questions.
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Corona virus Is a hoax and hear's the proof right from the WHO website..
This video is not a conspiracy theory. It's all factual information from the most advance website that's hundreds of layers deep.
The globalist are not hiding It. It seem's like they want you to know.
300 of the wealthiest people on earth are running this virus hoax on us and they're proud of It.
The Corona virus Has been in the plans for 50 years. They brag on how they like using crisis actors..
45 min.long and worth knowing the real story.
MUST SEE On CV: COVID Action Platform - 'TELL ALL' Site Re: NWO (Mirrored From Rooster's House)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=8JbyeV-_5Lo&feature=emb_logo
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: micelio] 1
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: micelio]
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The clinical study you linked has no sources of antibiotics role in viral therapy. It does have sources for zinc and hydrochloroq.
Anyone can design a study, anyone can find a study that matches their own world view.
Medicine is something people should not be talking about unless they have hours of medical knowledge, practical experience, science background, among many other variables.
Everyone's an expert or believes some youtube bullshit. But, noone has credentials to be talking out of their ass.
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A doctor said he's had very good success with this cocktail (which obviously needs to verified), and so now it's being tested in clinical trials to find out if it works as well as claimed.
Yes, of course the people doing the study should be doctors. I still have no idea what point you're trying to make.
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Point i'm trying to make is that study has no basis in reality. Anyone can publish a clincal gov trial. I could start one today about injecting bat urine into patients urethas to cure HIV.
I can find a million evidence based articles that state antibiotics have no role in viral illness. I could also prove the other way.
I have hours of virology, microbiology, evidence based medicine, clinical care, patient-dr realtions, continuing education, bio statistics, published papers, etc.
It is a skill that takes a long time to develop to weed through the vast bullshit in medicine, I still fall for traps. This shit is super complicated and if you don't have any background in medicine, please stop spreading propaganda.
I'm done this is bad for my own well-being, I need to be reopening my clinic and need to protect myself, and patients.
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oculodextro said: Point i'm trying to make is that study has no basis in reality. Anyone can publish a clincal gov trial.
I'm confused. Are you saying the results of the trial don't have any basis in reality?
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oculodextro said: I have hours of virology, microbiology, evidence based medicine, clinical care, patient-dr realtions, continuing education, bio statistics, published papers, etc.
As far as I can tell so far, this is the ONLY point you've made thus far.
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oculodextro said: If you don't have any background in medicine, please stop spreading propaganda.
What "propaganda" have I spread?
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oculodextro said: I'm done this is bad for my own well-being, I need to be reopening my clinic and need to protect myself, and patients.
Please answer the previous question before you drop out. I'd prefer not to spread anymore "propaganda".
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Look at the clinical gov trial you linked. Find anywhere where it sates antibiotics treat viral problems. They have linked sources explaining our knowledge on zinch and the anti-viral hydrocholorquinolone.
Nowhere do they have any facts to back up why they chose azithromycin or any other macrolide for that matter.
A good clinical trial is based on evidence not a feeling that this substance may work.
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Where did ANYONE say antibiotics treat viral problems?
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koods said: Yes. They promoted the study as FDA approved and it was not.
Can’t you just read the article instead of asking stupid questions?
No, the article didn't say it was FDA approved. It said there was an FDA approved trial.
I'm out!
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Where did ANYONE say antibiotics treat viral problems?
So no answer, that was you make believing?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: The article didn't say it was FDA approved. It said there was an FDA approved trial.
I'm out!
Because doctors want to study something you don't think should be studied?
Look, no one said this study would definitively work - it's a study. Sponsored by St. Francis Hospital, New York. It will obviously be conducted by doctors.
Are you a doctor?
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Stable Genius said:
"I want you to listen to key information 06:14 that's on this video and because I'm 06:16 going to pause it and highlight it so 06:18 that you can all hear it and I'm gonna 06:20 I'm gonna alliterate what they said and 06:24 make sure that you all understood that"
And he goes on and uses a lot of l's so he doesn't disappoint.
06:54 it is a fraud it is a life that all the 06:57 global elites including all these 06:59 corporate club committee 300 and many 07:03 other members and supporters and 07:05 sponsors of it we're all behind staging 07:08 the light as a smokescreen okay so I 07:12 want you all to pay very very close 07:15 attention to this because it's going to 07:17 really rock your world because I found 07:20 the literal holy grail of all damn 07:25 concealed planning
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: A doctor said he's had very good success with this cocktail (which obviously needs to verified), and so now it's being tested in clinical trials to find out if it works as well as claimed.
Yes, of course the people doing the study should be doctors. I still have no idea what point you're trying to make.
Hydroxychloroquine has repeatedly failed to produce any statistical benefit.
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