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koods said: Yes. They promoted the study as FDA approved and it was not.
Can’t you just read the article instead of asking stupid questions?

No, the article didn't say it was FDA approved. It said there was an FDA approved trial.
That trial has nothing to do with Corsi. You’re just trolling at this point or have no idea what you’re talking about.
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So the news and google all state there have been 65,000+ deaths but the CDC clearly says 37,000.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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#26643270 - 05/02/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yup. The CDC has been completely destroyed by the trump administration. They don’t even properly track covid.
This site has the most up to date numbers by accurately tracking state data
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#26643326 - 05/02/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Clearly the media is riding the larger number for the sensationalism.
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#26643379 - 05/02/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You mean the more accurate number. We also know that higher number isn’t accurate because mortality in the US over the past month is much higher than can be explained by the official covid count. There are tens of thousands of extra deaths over baseline and the covid count. The true number of deaths is over 100,000
Except for a few states, the only people who get counted as covid deaths are people who died in a hospital. So many people are getting sick and dying at home and they never got an official diagnosis.
Lemme put it another way. We know how many people should die in the US everyday. This is a very large country and the law of large numbers means that this number of deaths is predictable within a very narrow range. We are seeing far more deaths than normal. Some of these are officially attributable to covid, but there are still thousands of deaths per day above the normal expected amount and the covid attributed deaths.
People who think covid deaths are being overcounted need to explain why an extra 100,000 people died in the month of April than would be expected. If it’s not covid we have a public health crisis of historic proportions of unknown cause.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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koods said: That trial has nothing to do with Corsi. You’re just trolling at this point or have no idea what you’re talking about.
Reply fail? I agree the trial has nothing to do with Corsi.
Hey Kryptos, koods thinks "you’re just trolling at this point or have no idea what you’re talking about."
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Wtf are you babbling about. I was replying to you. You’re the one who posted some random trial that has nothing to do with the article.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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koods said: Wtf are you babbling about. I was replying to you. You’re the one who posted some random trial that has nothing to do with the article.
Source, or make believe?
Where in the article did it say Corsi had anything to do with the trial? A direct quote from the article would be nice.
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More trolling
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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More proof you were make believing again.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Where in the article did it say Corsi had anything to do with the trial? A direct quote from the article would be nice.
***CRICKETS***
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Kryptos said: Dude, you just pulled some random trial out of your ass.
No it wasn't 'some random trial'. As the title said, it was "Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc With Either Azithromycin or Doxycycline for Treatment of COVID-19 in Outpatient Setting" which is exactly what Dr Zelenko was pushing.
No it wasn’t. That trial has nothing to do with dr. Zelenko. You think Zelenko gets to call his trial FDA approved because there are legitimate FDA trials similar to his? Is that really what you’re tryig to argue?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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The New York Times first reported on this a month ago.
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Zelenko "had developed an experimental treatment consisting of an antimalarial medication called hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin and zinc sulfate."
The trial I linked to was literally called "Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc With Either Azithromycin or Doxycycline for Treatment of COVID-19"
It's EXACTLY the same.
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koods said: Wtf are you babbling about. I was replying to you. You’re the one who posted some random trial that has nothing to do with the article.
Source, or make believe?
Where in the article did it say Corsi had anything to do with the trial? A direct quote from the article would be nice.
I said the trial YOU POSTED has nothing to do with the ARTICLE. You just posted some random trial and have spent the past two pages using your completely non germane post to frustrate any attempt to have a conversation about the facts in the article. It’s a sleazy tactic you employ all the fucking time. It’s trolling at its worst and I have no idea why you continue to get away with it.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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I just noticed your edits:
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koods said: You think Zelenko gets to call his trial FDA approved because there are legitimate FDA trials similar to his? Is that really what you’re tryig to argue?
Not similar, exact. Zelenko was the one to make this cocktail famous, as shown by the New York Times article I just linked to.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: The New York Times first reported on this a month ago.
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Zelenko "had developed an experimental treatment consisting of an antimalarial medication called hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin and zinc sulfate."
The trial I linked to was literally called "Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc With Either Azithromycin or Doxycycline for Treatment of COVID-19"
It's EXACTLY the same.
There are many trials like that. They are not germane to the issue with Zelenko s trial, which is not fda approved.
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koods said: You think Zelenko gets to call his trial FDA approved because there are legitimate FDA trials similar to his? Is that really what you’re tryig to argue?
Not similar, exact. Zelenko was the one to make this cocktail famous, as shown by the New York Times article I just linked to.
Well maybe he should have spent less time promoting his cocktail and more time trying to get it approved.
This issue isn’t that these trials exist. The chinese were using hydroxychloroquine from day one. The issue is he was promoting his trial as fda approved when it was not. That is fraud.
I’m done with this topic.
And Hydrochloroquine doesn’t work.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Where in the article did it say Corsi had anything to do with the trial? A direct quote from the article would be nice.
I said the trial YOU POSTED has nothing to do with the ARTICLE.
Except that it DID. Do you know where I found the trial I posted? From Corsi himself.
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koods said: You just posted some random trial and have spent the past two pages using your completely non germane post to frustrate any attempt to have a conversation about the facts in the article. It’s a sleazy tactic you employ all the fucking time. It’s trolling at its worst and I have no idea why you continue to get away with it.
Because some people argue with logic rather than emotions. See the link above.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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The trial I linked to was literally called "Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc With Either Azithromycin or Doxycycline for Treatment of COVID-19"
What is the purpose of an antibiotic?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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koods said: Well maybe he should have spent less time promoting his cocktail and more time trying to get it approved.
This issue isn’t that these trials exist. The chinese were using hydroxychloroquine from day one. The issue is he was promoting his trial as fda approved when it was not. That is fraud.
I’m done with this topic.
And Hydrochloroquine doesn’t work.
No, not hydrochloroquine by itself. Zelensky's cocktail consisted of hydrochloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc sulfate.
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Again why antibiotics?
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