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specialpeopleclub


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To me, growing up is looking after your own problems, not having someone dictate what is right because they have a bureaucratic job.
I had a few experiances with death, and they were all terrible and traumatic.
Corona is bad, but 150,000 people a day, 500,000 a year from cigerettes. does one or one million people dying mean anything if you dont know them? Is the concern real, or is it your mind trying not to have an identity that would hate itself?
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TheStallionMang
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specialpeopleclub said: To me, growing up is looking after your own problems, not having someone dictate what is right because they have a bureaucratic job.
I had a few experiances with death, and they were all terrible and traumatic.
Corona is bad, but 150,000 people a day, 500,000 a year from cigerettes. does one or one million people dying mean anything if you dont know them? Is the concern real, or is it your mind trying not to have an identity that would hate itself?
You obviously resist because you feel like it's being forced upon you. I understand the feeling but at the same time, the govt (trump mostly) is telling us to take it less seriously than the scientists are.
Ok, fine, you don't care about a lot of people dying suddenly..cool
Wow...that's exactly what it is. How did you know? I never thought of it before but it IS my mind trying not to have an identity that would hate itself!!!
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Though most of you don't live in the SF Bay area as I do, this chart may show the effect of 'shelter in place' that the Bay Area implemented on 16 March, vs New York who waited until the evening of 20 March:
This vid on the swine(spanish) flu pandemic scared the hell out of me. San Francisco was ahead of the curve back then as well. The statistics blew my mind.
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Of course he is. Its called 'good cop bad cop' Trump is the good cop. The doctors like Fauci only have the job of dealing with the disease. They would shut us down years if thats what it takes. Thats why they arent unilaterally in charge.
Im not resisting because everything has been voluntary for me so far.
It isnt about how it affects me, or the sick. Most of our legal system is built on precedent.
Sometimes doing the things you hate yourself for are the right things. Being self satisfied doesn't make you good. We mostly mitigated the problem, but people like you still want to impose more.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: ... I couldn't find a thread where this belonged, so I started a new thread for coronavirus chat.
Have not been following all the global responses, numbers, and handling so cannot verify accuracy, but this gave me a giggle
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#26597188 - 04/13/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are giving up some freedom for two months. Grow up.
Nope, not even close to correct. You want a phone app that tells you when you came in contact with someone who was sick but has now recovered and developed antibodies. Why? They aren't fucking lepers. And guess what, you have already come in contact with someone who has it because 80% of people who get it are asymptomatic.
If you honestly believe the data wont be exploited for other measures you are a naive child, and you need to grow up.
And if you think I'm going to sit back and let the freedoms I have, that people fought and died for, disappear over some fucking virus you are mistaken.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D]
#26597206 - 04/13/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: And if you think I'm going to sit back and let the freedoms I have, that people fought and died for, disappear over some fucking virus you are mistaken.
Too bad that's the solution the Dear Leader appointed heir apparent came up with.
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specialpeopleclub


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
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Ran-D said: And if you think I'm going to sit back and let the freedoms I have, that people fought and died for, disappear over some fucking virus you are mistaken.
Too bad that's the solution the Dear Leader appointed heir apparent came up with.
He didnt and hasnt. He left it to the states. It was the propper thing to do. He obviously doesnt want this. He hadnt aged from the presidency at all, and now you can see this fucked with him.
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MagicMush123 said:
When did the government mandate you to wear masks in public?
So far, that I know of, Washington DC requires masks when grocery shopping and some counties in MD require then when shopping at large retail outlets and grocery stores.
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PA requires masks as well.
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specialpeopleclub said: To me, growing up is looking after your own problems, not having someone dictate what is right because they have a bureaucratic job.
I had a few experiances with death, and they were all terrible and traumatic.
Corona is bad, but 150,000 people a day, 500,000 a year from cigerettes. does one or one million people dying mean anything if you dont know them? Is the concern real, or is it your mind trying not to have an identity that would hate itself?
I hope you didn't rely on medical professionals duringyour brushes with death. You should be dealing with these issues on your own.
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Ran-D said: And if you think I'm going to sit back and let the freedoms I have, that people fought and died for, disappear over some fucking virus you are mistaken.
Too bad that's the solution the Dear Leader appointed heir apparent came up with.
He didnt and hasnt. He left it to the states. It was the propper thing to do. He obviously doesnt want this. He hadnt aged from the presidency at all, and now you can see this fucked with him.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/08/jared-kushner-planning-national-coronavirus-tracking-system/
Do you ever get tired of just being absolutely wrong all the time? Trump appointed Jared Kushner to lead the coronavirus response, and Jared Kushner decided that cell phone tracking was the solution.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D]
#26597709 - 04/13/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: 80% of people who get it are asymptomatic.
Source?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Stable Genius said: This vid on the swine(spanish) flu pandemic scared the hell out of me. San Francisco was ahead of the curve back then as well. The statistics blew my mind.
Wow, that is an intense documentary.
Shows the foolishness of those who are against quarantine to contain the virus.
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Ran-D



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26597753 - 04/13/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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Ran-D said: 80% of people who get it are asymptomatic.
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WHO
Now lets look at some more anti-freedom technocratic bullshit... https://id2020.org/manifesto
Digital IDs for everyone! But hey, its for your own protection! I had no idea I didnt have control of my identity right now! I really need these guys to inject it into my finger so it's safe! How oh how did the world get by for so long without this amazing life saving technology?!
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D]
#26597755 - 04/13/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you cite the precise place where WHO published a statement that 80% of people who get covid are asymptomatic? The information on their website appears to indicate that you are misrepresenting what they've said:
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Some people become infected but don’t develop any symptoms and don't feel unwell. Most people (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing special treatment.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
Do you have an actual citation/link? Or did you just pull that out of your ass and spew it as fact?
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Ran-D



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26597758 - 04/13/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's in a PDF just google it.
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Enlil
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
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I did. Their website contradicts what you posted:
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Some people become infected but don’t develop any symptoms and don't feel unwell. Most people (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing special treatment.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
So, you just made it up?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ran-D] 2
#26597786 - 04/13/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I Googled it too, and here is what the WHO said:
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For COVID-19, data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection, requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation.
So 80% aren't severe enough to equire oxygen or ventillation, not 80% are asymptomatic. Pretty much what Enlil found.
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Enlil
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Yeah, sounds like more lies from Ran-D
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Ran-D



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#26597825 - 04/13/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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While the range of symptoms for the two viruses is similar, the fraction with severe disease appears to be different. For COVID-19, data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection, requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation.
Again, it's from a PDF, I cant provide a link for a PDF.
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