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Kryptos
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MadMuncher said: your guilt is not my problem but thanks for bringing it up. its not about saving lives its about going to the bar. the virus will never go away. if people gave a fuck they'd be watching the case counts and be staying home, wearing masks and avoiding crowds like the government says. you picked the one piece of cdc guidance that had the highest virtue signal. change your avatar to a white artificial candle
Virus ended for me back in the spring when I got vaccinated.
The vast majority of people dying from covid now I'd call "too dumb to live". It's natural selection.
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MadMuncher said: its not about saving lives its about going to the bar.
There’s a lot going on here. Bar owners are the hardest hit and biggest cry babies over the new rules and regulations. First to close, last to open. Many permanently closed. Bars are virus breeding grounds. Herpes & Hepatitis. Not to mention a excellent way to supercharge diabetes which is the biggest factor in Covid19 deaths.
#cancelallbars
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Gilbert20
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Minion]
#27456000 - 09/04/21 01:14 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weird. It’s almost like your vaccine does nothing for you, and instead of “following the science” and accepting the fact that you got duped, you wanna get mad at everybody else who didn’t get fooled into the bullshit. LOL. Fuckin clowns.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm
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MadMuncher said: your guilt is not my problem but thanks for bringing it up. its not about saving lives its about going to the bar. the virus will never go away. if people gave a fuck they'd be watching the case counts and be staying home, wearing masks and avoiding crowds like the government says. you picked the one piece of cdc guidance that had the highest virtue signal. change your avatar to a white artificial candle
The virus isn’t going away. Covid will become just like every other coronavirus that causes colds in humans once everyone has acquired immunity. Once there is widespread immunity, covid is no longer a public health emergency that requires mandates and masking and quarantine and lockdowns.
The other human endemic coronaviruses don’t cause waves of death because everyone is exposed to them when they are children. By age eight nearly everyone on earth has antibodies to these viruses and they only cause moderate illnesses. That’s what will happen with covid. Children will get exposed to the virus early in life when it is not dangerous (or they will get vaccinated) and that immunity will protect them from serious disease later in life. Every decade or so you will get sick and your immunity is boosted to protect you for another couple years.
Vaccinated people should not worry about getting covid. You get sick for a few days and you get a massive immunity boost that will protect you from infection for another couple years. That’s the way these coronaviruses work.
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koods
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#27456013 - 09/04/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gilbert20 said: Weird. It’s almost like your vaccine does nothing for you, and instead of “following the science” and accepting the fact that you got duped, you wanna get mad at everybody else who didn’t get fooled into the bullshit. LOL. Fuckin clowns.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm
Really does nothing? What was the rate of vaccination in that crowd? Provincetown summer 2021. That’s an older gay crowd in a Northeastern state. Likely this crowd had a 95% vaccination rate, yet only 76% of the people who got covid were vaccinated.
Let’s put it this way. The ~5% of the crowd that were unvaccinated accounted for 24% of the infections. If the vaccines didn’t work then the percentage of infections in vaccinated people would be the same as the vaccination rate. This study demonstrates that you are 5x less likely to get infected if you are vaccinated.
It’s almost like the vaccines actually do a lot for you just protecting you from infection. But the main reason for getting vaccinated is to prevent serious illness.
If you don’t understand the reason why you have to compare the percentage of infections in vaccinated people to the rate of vaccination, do a thought experiment: if you have a crowd that is 100% vaccinated then 100% of infections would occur in the vaccinated and you wouldn’t be able to make any judgements about the effectiveness of the vaccine except to say that it doesn’t prevent all infections.
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Gilbert20
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27456019 - 09/04/21 01:39 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah homie.. don’t make up your own numbers “likely 95%”.. use the % that the CDC gave in the article, 69%. Lol
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ChuckSN33
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#27456023 - 09/04/21 01:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gilbert: innocent people are dying of completely preventable deaths because they can't get a bed because retarded anti vaxxers lifeless husks are clogging up hospital beds all over the country
You're gonna get the vaccine forced on you eventually and it'll be pretty funny when... nothing happens afterwards except you being less likely to clog up a bed
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#27456025 - 09/04/21 01:45 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also you can twist statistics you don't even understand all you want but the fact is nearly all the deaths in this country from covid are from the unvaccinated. And that's a number you'll never be able to twist nor argue
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Gilbert20
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: ChuckSN33]
#27456032 - 09/04/21 01:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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They actually won’t be forced on me, ever. Because I’m American and will never live on my knees. I understand the numbers, don’t gaslight with your “statistics you don’t understand” bullshit. You’re literally spouting out every line you’ve heard on CNN. It’s obvious and really sad.
[Mod edit - removed flaming]
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#27456038 - 09/04/21 01:59 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol CNN. Why are you even here, do you grow mushrooms? You know mycology is a science?
I'm curious how you explain that the vaccinated population trends more educated. Are you saying you're smarter than 99% of the worlds doctors? Wow you must make a lot of money if you're that intelligent, what do you do for a living?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Gilbert20]
#27456040 - 09/04/21 02:01 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gilbert20 said: Nah homie.. don’t make up your own numbers “likely 95%”.. use the % that the CDC gave in the article, 69%. Lol
The vaccination rate of the county is irrelevant. Provincetown in the summer is almost entirely gay and most of these people come from other places. It’s a tourist town. While it doesn’t say this outbreak occurred in the gay community, the fact that 87% of the infections occurred in men is a pretty good indicator. Vaccination rates in the gay community are over 90% nationwide, and it is likely significantly higher in the northeast.
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MadMuncher
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27456043 - 09/04/21 02:03 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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go have fun dr koods, virologist
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MadMuncher said: its not about saving lives its about going to the bar.
There’s a lot going on here. Bar owners are the hardest hit and biggest cry babies over the new rules and regulations. First to close, last to open. Many permanently closed. Bars are virus breeding grounds. Herpes & Hepatitis. Not to mention a excellent way to supercharge diabetes which is the biggest factor in Covid19 deaths.
#cancelallbars
whoa what is this reverse nazi shit? do you understand that bars and pubs are an essential part of white culture? if we got rid of all the bars that is basically white genocide man. but maybe that could be something for dems and reps to come together on. but nobody should have to face alcoholism alone either. so its a whole dilemma. if we have to justify doing something to ourselves it is probably not right or moral or whatever
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koods
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You don’t need to be a virologist to know that the vaccinated have significantly lower infection rates and significantly lower death rates than the unvaccinated
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MadMuncher
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27456058 - 09/04/21 02:24 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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from that it kind of looks like vaccine effectiveness is waning since january like the chances of fully vaxxed getting covid has doubled? and the % of unvaxxed getting sick is going down. why do you think that is?
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koods
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Delta variant
Additionally, coronaviruses don’t impart long lasting immunity. That’s why you can get infected with them over and over.
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Kryptos
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Anti-vaxxers are finally starting to die off, but unfortunately, they have already done their best to help covid by letting it mutate freely to avoid the vaccine?
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ChuckSN33
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
#27456062 - 09/04/21 02:28 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unfortunately they're mostly fat adults and have already reproduced, so the gene pool remains pissed in
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Kryptos
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: ChuckSN33]
#27456068 - 09/04/21 02:34 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eh, I just saw a thing about some anti-vax "professional mom" with either 3 or 4 kids plus one in the oven whose husband (and sole breadwinner) died of covid.
I mean she's almost certainly going to spend a significant portion of the rest of her life on welfare. But welfare in the US ain't exactly great, so...I don't think those kids have bright futures ahead of them. Perhaps they will be the end of that particular bloodline. We're definitely going to be starting some wars by the time they hit 18...
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koods
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#27456070 - 09/04/21 02:35 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I kinda wish the FDA wasn’t so by the books. We really should have boosters ready with delta variant antigens, but as it goes even that minor change to the vaccine requires clinical trials. We don’t require that level of vigilance with flu vaccines and I don’t really understand why we have to do it with the covid vaccine. You’re literally just changing a couple nucleotides in the mRNA sequence. 🤦♂️
It seems very likely that all future strains of the virus will evolve from delta and we should be vaccinating against it instead of still vaccinating against the original virus which doesn’t even exist anymore
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Kryptos
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27456073 - 09/04/21 02:38 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once is chance, twice is coincidence, thrice is data.
I say we do clinical trials until the fourth variant.
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