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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mycot]
#27443161 - 08/25/21 10:39 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take your conspiracy shit somewhere else
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27443308 - 08/26/21 03:56 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take your fascist shit somewhere else.
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bodhisatta said: Don't need to make stuff up. He invited bill binney on his show 

Bill Binney is an NSA whistle blower. Why the facepalm? Are you against whistle blowers?
No. He was a whistle blower. He hasn't worked for the government in years. Now he's just a hack saying absolutely bat shit crazy nonsense
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christopera said: Jimmy looks bad without made up stories about the NSA, just like Tucker. Made up stories about being hacked by the NSA are straight self flagellation, it must be nice to feel so important.
Care to post one of Jimmy Dore's "made up stories about being hacked by the NSA", or are you the one making up stories?
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bodhisatta said: No. He was a whistle blower. He hasn't worked for the government in years. Now he's just a hack saying absolutely bat shit crazy nonsense
Bill Binney telling people what he used to do is bat shit crazy?
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christopera said: Jimmy looks bad without made up stories about the NSA, just like Tucker. Made up stories about being hacked by the NSA are straight self flagellation, it must be nice to feel so important.
Care to post one of Jimmy Dore's "made up stories about being hacked by the NSA", or are you the one making up stories?
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So you're saying Jimmy is not making up stories. Got it.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
#27443940 - 08/26/21 02:03 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: He can’t do that though.
An abrupt about-face on his ideology screams grift, he’s gotta maintain his lefty bona fides while carefully wading towards the online media market whose audience is primarily young and right wing, hence the constant shitting on democrats.
What would the right wing find appealing about Dore exactly? Shitting on Dems that act like Republicans is appealing to the right wing? Shitting on Trump is appealing to the right wing? He's a liberal progressive that calls out the 'progressive' elected politicians selling out in the Democratic Party.
It doesn’t matter to these people WHY they’re shitting on Dems, they just want their feelings validated.
“Wow, even the lefties get it!”
I think it does matter because the conservative narrative is that Biden, AOC, Bernie and others truly are promoting and implementing a socialist ideology on the US political system. What Dore is pointing out is the complete opposite and that goes into direct conflict with the conservative narrative on Democrats.
Getting angry that Dems are failing to help the US population says what exactly about Republicans that don't even make the effort to fake it? I don't think the right wing would find Dore very appealing at all, it makes their current narratives appear to be loaded with hypocrisy, I don't see them embracing that outcome.
You assume that ideological consistency is important. It is not.
What is important is to stay on the offensive and never play defense. Dore feeds that.
You're going to have to get a little more specific with your issue with Dore, I'm not sure what you're getting at with it.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: qman]
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I think he's trying to say Republicans are too dumb to understand WHY Dore is attacking the Democrats, they're just happy that Dore IS attacking the Democrats.
Kryptos - correct me if I'm wrong.
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It's got nothing to do with republicans being dumb, and everything to do with a specific type of rhetorical strategy that has been effectively used by previously far right and currently mainstream republicans.
Hence why ideological consistency does not matter. As a matter of fact, nothing outside of the present moment matters for such a rhetorical strategy. The entire point is to treat each interaction as a singular unconnected argument in which the objective is to win.
So, in regards to Dore, (and this actually applies to anybody that criticizes the democrats in any way, including me) the fact that he shows Republican hypocrisy doesn't matter, what matters is that he's criticizing democrats. That's kind of the whole point of this particular, vaguely nihilistic, rhetorical strategy.
Apart from that, I think Dore is just a random political talk show hack, and I don't much like political talk show hacks from any side of the aisle. As far as random political talk show hacks go, he's not exactly a standout among the competition. There are much more interesting ones.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
#27444023 - 08/26/21 03:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: ...what matters is that he's criticizing democrats. That's kind of the whole point of this particular, vaguely nihilistic, rhetorical strategy.
I've done that often, and it's forced me to change my signature. I'll post what I think is right, regardless of perception.
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Kryptos said: Apart from that, I think Dore is just a random political talk show hack, and I don't much like political talk show hacks from any side of the aisle. As far as random political talk show hacks go, he's not exactly a standout among the competition. There are much more interesting ones.
Sure, Aaron Mate and Glenn Greenwald, for example. But Jimmy admits he's not as smart as those guys, and those are regulars on his program.
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And that's why it is such an effective rhetorical strategy. It works particularly well against people who operate on a set of principles.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
#27444070 - 08/26/21 04:11 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Florida reported 900 deaths today. They have a very screwed up reporting system so who knows if that was just one day, but regardless it’s the largest number they’ve reported since the beginning of covid, and approaches what was happening in NY state in April 2020.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27444339 - 08/26/21 08:16 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ron DeSantis for President.
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Unfortunately, killing 900 of his own voters a day isn’t really making much of a dent in his voter base.
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Ron DeSantis for Handicapper General!
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#27444376 - 08/26/21 09:08 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Desantis won his election by about 30,000. It’s entirely possible he’s killed enough of his base that it could jeopardize his re-election.
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#27444749 - 08/27/21 07:36 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Psilynut2]
#27444877 - 08/27/21 09:19 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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From this side of the world I really struggle to understand American politics. At one time the Conservatives were the Right-wingers, the Establishment, the people that the counterculture fought against. Now they are the radicals. The Dems being leftist were more embraced by hippies and the counterculture as its values were in closer alignment than the opposition. They were the radicals. Now they look like they are toeing the line, become conservative in manner, become Rightwing in other words. So what the fuck happened ? Did you guys swap shoes or something ? It's really confusing.
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#27444927 - 08/27/21 10:00 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not believing in COVID or accepting the results of an election doesn't make you a radical leftist hippie . It makes you a moron .
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Psilynut2]
#27444957 - 08/27/21 10:27 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not even talking about whatever your last post is on about. I'm asking about American politics as a whole. The whole kit and kabodle, or the whole picture that's presented to the world.
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