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mndfreeze 
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#27139781 - 01/10/21 12:59 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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What exactly is your defense about zerohedge? You asked why I said they are a conspiracy nonsense site, I gave it to you, and you just tried to unsuccessfully move the arguments goalposts and again got shut down.
The only dense one here is you.
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But in this case, they posted someone else's findings from CDC data. 
Would you like me to point examples of the NY Times being wrong on occasion? That's easy to do, just like you did.
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Scroll back up to the start where I clearly stated how they are trying to misrepresent the data to pass conspiracy about the CDC covering shit up. This is just another piece of propaganda for the sheep to lap up.
No idea why you are bringing up the The Times. It has zero relation to my argument at all. Is your entire goal on this site to just try to argue with everyone about everything or what?
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mndfreeze said: No idea why you are bringing up the The Times. It has zero relation to my argument at all. Is your entire goal on this site to just try to argue with everyone about everything or what?
Why did you give 10 examples of things zerohedge got wrong? I can find things the NY Times got wrong too.
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I think you should do that. It would be very informative.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Lynnch]
#27139949 - 01/10/21 02:31 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: I think you should do that. It would be very informative.
https://www.nytimes.com/section/corrections
How many people see their corrections? I've pointed them out a lot in debates where people linked to incorrect information, but I don't think most people see them.
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Does zerohedge post corrections?
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Lynnch said: I think you should do that. It would be very informative.
https://www.nytimes.com/section/corrections
How many people see their corrections? I've pointed them out a lot in debates where people linked to incorrect information, but I don't think most people see them.
They also put those corrections in the affected online articles
You don’t see a lot because there aren’t a lot.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Lynnch]
#27140067 - 01/10/21 03:32 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: Does zerohedge post corrections?
I don't know. For the examples you provided, it seems they didn't have to issue corrections, since they didn't actually print anything wrong.
For example, the first of your claims was "zerohedge is also the same place that made THESE claims: Says China 'stole Coronavirus from Canada and weaponized it into a Bioweapon.' – False"
Except zerohedge didn't actually make that claim. Their article was titled "Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?" and it clearly showed they were were reprinting another story.
Your second claim was "Is a Craigslist ad proof that counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally were 'paid to make chaos'? – False"
I couldn't find the article you were referring to, but it sounds like another question.
Now I get that too much information is not good for the masses, as less intelligent readers might miss the fact that zerohedge was posing questions.
Your third point was "It’s now against the law in California to shower and do laundry on the same day. – Mostly False" Here is the article and it said this:
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The bill would impose civil liability for a violation of an order or regulation issued pursuant to these provisions, as specified.
Now I realize it might not be "against the law" to get hit with a penalty for a violation, but that's getting into semantics, which people complain I shouldn't do.
...and so on.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27140073 - 01/10/21 03:40 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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koods said: They also put those corrections in the affected online articles
You don’t see a lot because there aren’t a lot.
Those corrections often go unnoticed. Like here, and here, for example.
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mndfreeze said: No idea why you are bringing up the The Times. It has zero relation to my argument at all. Is your entire goal on this site to just try to argue with everyone about everything or what?
Why did you give 10 examples of things zerohedge got wrong? I can find things the NY Times got wrong too.
"Got wrong" and Conspiracy/propaganda are 2 very different things. The former is a mistake, usually corrected as others have pointed out, the latter is intentional with the goal to mislead and misinform. Certainly you know the difference, right? Or are you just going to to continue these garbage argument tactics?
You pick some strange battles to fight.
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Do you know how many times the NY Times posted articles with the intent to mislead? Read the two examples from my previous post.
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Intent to mislead. Amazing you can infer intent from a correction, but don’t seem to have any ability to do the same thing with Donald Trump’s incitement via tweet
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And that has what to do with zerohedge? The discussion is about zerohedge, not the NYT.
Here is your tactic:
what·a·bout·ism /ˌ(h)wədəˈboudizəm/ nounBRITISH the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue. "the parliamentary hearing appeared to be an exercise in whataboutism"
Its garbage, fuck off.
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If you want to try to get the vaccine, leave your number with your local pharmacy. If they have doses at the end of the day that are going expire, they’re supposed to give them to anyone available.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] 2
#27140161 - 01/10/21 04:40 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Covid is now causing more deaths in LA than all other causes combined
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mndfreeze] 2
#27140213 - 01/10/21 05:13 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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mndfreeze said: And that has what to do with zerohedge? The discussion is about zerohedge, not the NYT.
Here is your tactic:
what·a·bout·ism /ˌ(h)wədəˈboudizəm/ nounBRITISH the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue. "the parliamentary hearing appeared to be an exercise in whataboutism"
Its garbage, fuck off.
The point of the zerohedge article was the information contained in it. Since you can’t argue the information, you decided to derail the conversation. That tactic is garbage.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 2
#27140230 - 01/10/21 05:21 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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What information is there to argue that I haven't already done so? You asked 'where is the conspiracy' and I showed you where in your article the conspiracy was being claimed. Don't be so dishonest, it makes you look like a moron. If you only wanted to post the covid stats you would have done so with a direct link to the CDC or any other number of raw data sources for discussion. Instead you posted some conspiracy site bullshit and got called on it.
Your tactics and "point" are garbage.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mndfreeze] 1
#27140237 - 01/10/21 05:25 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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I didn’t post the article to talk about zerohedge. Nothing was conspiratorial regarding Berenson’s posts which were highlighted in that article and all you’ve done is bitch.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#27140268 - 01/10/21 05:40 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Then you probably should have posted some shit without the conspiracy site attached, and maybe added some context to your post besides "Who coulda foreseen this?" otherwise its blatantly apparent you are just intending to mislead like your site you suddenly don't care about.
We have a whole forum section dedicated to nonsense! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/99
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