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Billy Ray
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mndfreeze said: We have a soon to be former president who spews misinformation and bullshit all the time. Since when does a college education or job have any bearing on how batshit insane you are.
The dude also wrote books demonizing weed with misinformation and alarmist rhetoric, misleading and misrepresenting data, which was condemned by the scientific community.
Then he does the same shit with corona virus. Also condemned by the scientific community.
Your source site is barely one step better than naturalnews, one of the worst propaganda conspiracy sites on the net.
If your core data is untrustworthy, any argument or discussion you have based on it is untrustworthy and should be thrown the fuck out.
You think Joe Rogan would host a conspiracy theorist to talk about covid 19 in the middle of a pandemic? I don’t. It’d be nice if you could show me how his information is inaccurate.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 2
#27138242 - 01/09/21 06:48 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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I never claimed he was a right wing conspiracy theorist. I said your site site zerohedge was. What he is though is a known corona nonsense spewer, which zerohedge is trying to use as their source material.
Your source site is garbage, its source its using to try to pull in the gullible sheep is garbage, garbage in garbage out.
Don't be so gullible.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 2
#27138245 - 01/09/21 06:49 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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Uhh Joe Rogan hosts anyone who gets him views. He fucking hosted Alex Jones for fucks sake. How gullible can you be?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54733252
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Billy Ray
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I knew someone was going to respond with that. He fact-checked pretty much everything Alex said and for the most part Alex was correct in what he said.
You’re the gullible one. You don’t consider information unless it comes from the chosen mediums of our corporate overlords.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#27138267 - 01/09/21 07:00 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yeah, all those Sandy Hook crisis actors.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 2
#27138280 - 01/09/21 07:05 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yes, the scientific community are the corporate overlords I worship. 
I wonder what Rogans conclusion was about the gay frogs.
But again, you follow garbage ass sources to support a garbage argument. You would be more at home in the conspiracy forum and I look forward to the day when Enlil and Ballsy start enforcing it.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#27138290 - 01/09/21 07:10 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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Billy Ray said: The source of this information is from a former NY Times reporter who also went to Yale. Tell me how Alex Berenson is a “far-right conspiracy theorist.”
That’s unusual for a NYT reporter to end up on a fringy right wing newsish site
What did he get fired for?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mndfreeze] 1
#27138296 - 01/09/21 07:15 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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mndfreeze said: Your source site is garbage, its source its using to try to pull in the gullible sheep is garbage, garbage in garbage out.
Don't be so gullible.
Would you trust the CDC itself where he got the numbers?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] 1
#27138303 - 01/09/21 07:19 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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Just because someone died the same day they got vaccinated, doesn’t mean they are related.
When you’re talking about millions of doses, you’re starting approach near certainty that there will be many people who die the day they get the vaccine.
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mndfreeze said: Your source site is garbage, its source its using to try to pull in the gullible sheep is garbage, garbage in garbage out.
Don't be so gullible.
Would you trust the CDC itself where he got the numbers?
Yes. What I don't trust is the person who manipulates the data to push an agenda. You can take data and misrepresent it, leave out important info or context, skew it a hundred ways to sunday to sell an idea. You only need to look at our resident HamHead for a prime example of someone who falls for this sort of misdirection and misinformation campaign.
Guess what sort of places do exactly that? Oh, look, naturalnews, zerohedge, anti-vax sites, etc. I see it all day every day across facebook, here, and the internet in general.
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mndfreeze said: Yes. What I don't trust is the person who manipulates the data to push an agenda. You can take data and misrepresent it, leave out important info or context, skew it a hundred ways to sunday to sell an idea. You only need to look at our resident HamHead for a prime example of someone who falls for this sort of misdirection and misinformation campaign.
Guess what sort of places do exactly that? Oh, look, naturalnews, zerohedge, anti-vax sites, etc. I see it all day every day across facebook, here, and the internet in general.
What was manipulated?
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You’d have to dig into the data to see if the claims are accurate.
Just easier to get your information from a reputable source
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27138551 - 01/09/21 09:23 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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I did. The numbers were accurate.
Keep in mind, it's just a VERY small number of people who have adverse effects. But it is more than the flu shot.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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mndfreeze said: Your source site is garbage, its source its using to try to pull in the gullible sheep is garbage, garbage in garbage out.
Don't be so gullible.
Would you trust the CDC itself where he got the numbers?
"Anaphylaxis is a severe, life-threatening allergic reaction that occurs rarely after vaccination.
What is added by this report?
During December 14–23, 2020, monitoring by the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System detected 21 cases of anaphylaxis after administration of a reported 1,893,360 first doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (11.1 cases per million doses); 71% of these occurred within 15 minutes of vaccination.
What are the implications for public health practice?
Locations administering COVID-19 vaccines should adhere to CDC guidance for use of COVID-19 vaccines, including screening recipients for contraindications and precautions, having the necessary supplies available to manage anaphylaxis, implementing the recommended postvaccination observation periods, and immediately treating suspected cases of anaphylaxis with intramuscular injection of epinephrine.
The median interval from vaccine receipt to symptom onset was 13 minutes (range = 2–150 minutes)."
With only 21 cases REPORTED, it is seen as an acceptable risk.
Might want to hang out in the hospital or Walgreens parking lot after a Ronavaxx jab, just incase you're one of those 11.1 out of a million. Like a lottery ticket. May want to ask if you can take an epinephrine shot home with your bandaid, too.
Not everyone reports their adverse reactions, or even knows how. I suspect .2% is on the lower end.
And why report when many reactions are classified as being normal.
I mean, if fever and chills are normal, why be concern over a 104.9 fever? Just pop some more pills and hope for better days.
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#27138717 - 01/09/21 10:48 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ivory Cummins on Neglected Covid truths.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 2
#27138780 - 01/09/21 11:34 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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21 cases in 2,000,000 doses. That is surprisingly low
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27138784 - 01/09/21 11:35 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Anaphylaxis happens in a range of severity. And it’s pretty easy to treat.
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#27139007 - 01/10/21 04:23 AM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Billy Ray said:
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mndfreeze said: We have a soon to be former president who spews misinformation and bullshit all the time. Since when does a college education or job have any bearing on how batshit insane you are.
The dude also wrote books demonizing weed with misinformation and alarmist rhetoric, misleading and misrepresenting data, which was condemned by the scientific community.
Then he does the same shit with corona virus. Also condemned by the scientific community.
Your source site is barely one step better than naturalnews, one of the worst propaganda conspiracy sites on the net.
If your core data is untrustworthy, any argument or discussion you have based on it is untrustworthy and should be thrown the fuck out.
You think Joe Rogan would host a conspiracy theorist to talk about covid 19 in the middle of a pandemic? I don’t. It’d be nice if you could show me how his information is inaccurate.
Joe Rogan will say or do anything that puts money in his pocket.
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Let's be serious. If the defense is that someone appeared on JRE we shouldn't even engage with that level of stupidity or trollery.
If people think JRE is some holy grail of vetting sources they're beyond help.
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Billy Ray
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bodhisatta said: Let's be serious. If the defense is that someone appeared on JRE we shouldn't even engage with that level of stupidity or trollery.
If people think JRE is some holy grail of vetting sources they're beyond help.
That's not the defense. You seem to be too dense to understand.
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