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OfflineSeriously_trippin
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27100104 - 12/20/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Again, I am considerate not to ask if your loved ones had any history of heart disease? Diabetes? Cancer? Alcoholism? Poor diet? Age? Weight? Employment? Living environment? Location?

See, you don't have to answer any of those. Not one. By choice.

But then again, I could be asking anyone I meet with a Covid death story all these questions and dissecting each aspect of someone's personal health and lifestyle choices and criticize them.

But I don't. It's not my business.

I am aware and share within my personal life many things I have shared here. I don't get too many arguments or disagreements because I lay things out logically, and people seem to understand where I'm coming from, and listen. Especially when it comes to Coronavirus, perhaps it's due to climbing mountains of information for months.

People die. It's part of life. There is no escape.

My mom has told me many, many times. "One day I'm not going to be here for you.".

What's really fucked and tragic in my opinion is separating people from their loved ones when nearing death.

Dying well is something being ignored. Being peaceful in our last moments ensures loved ones around us don't experience emotional trauma.

It's so sad, my aunt with dementia has to be isolated by herself in a nursing home because of Covid restrictions. Not sure if she can have visitors, I doubt it with what's going on in her state.




It is sad your aunt has to be isolated so fighting for masks to life restrictions is logical. Secondly these are my close friends family and I don't have detailed medical records on them you know by hippa laws I can't know unless given the documentation by the family. One was 58, one 42, one 36, one 55 and one 35 that's all I can make make public about my friends families personal matters


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #27100145 - 12/20/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
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HamHead said:
Again, I am considerate not to ask if your loved ones had any history of heart disease? Diabetes? Cancer? Alcoholism? Poor diet? Age? Weight? Employment? Living environment? Location?

See, you don't have to answer any of those. Not one. By choice.

But then again, I could be asking anyone I meet with a Covid death story all these questions and dissecting each aspect of someone's personal health and lifestyle choices and criticize them.

But I don't. It's not my business.

I am aware and share within my personal life many things I have shared here. I don't get too many arguments or disagreements because I lay things out logically, and people seem to understand where I'm coming from, and listen. Especially when it comes to Coronavirus, perhaps it's due to climbing mountains of information for months.

People die. It's part of life. There is no escape.

My mom has told me many, many times. "One day I'm not going to be here for you.".

What's really fucked and tragic in my opinion is separating people from their loved ones when nearing death.

Dying well is something being ignored. Being peaceful in our last moments ensures loved ones around us don't experience emotional trauma.

It's so sad, my aunt with dementia has to be isolated by herself in a nursing home because of Covid restrictions. Not sure if she can have visitors, I doubt it with what's going on in her state.




It is sad your aunt has to be isolated so fighting for masks to life restrictions is logical. Secondly these are my close friends family and I don't have detailed medical records on them you know by hippa laws I can't know unless given the documentation by the family. One was 58, one 42, one 36, one 55 and one 35 that's all I can make make public about my friends families personal matters




Don’t feel so bad. hamheads answer to lockdowns is to just lock up the old people and keep them out of society so everyone else can just swap viruses until the pandemic runs its course.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Lynnch]
    #27100282 - 12/21/20 04:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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:whatnonono:
You thought that as soon as a vaccine arrived, the pandemic would be over overnight? :facepalm:

Herd immunity? What part of ICUs at full capacity do you not understand? :facepalm:


:facepalm:




:shrug:

That's how it's been sold. Wait for a vaccine.

How hard is it to understand that hospitals operate at high capacities during off seasons.

ICUs overflow every year during flu season. It's nothing new.

:hewut:


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


Edited by HamHead (12/21/20 10:47 AM)


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27100379 - 12/21/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I was taking it for anxiety and OCD related issues. It really seemed to help. The pills I was taking were 50mg zinc sulfate (I think it was sulfate im not sure). Abd like you said its all about absorption rates. I think 50 mg zinc sulphate ends up as much less in your system. One day I had a really bad episode of anxiety and intrusive thoughts and kinda doubled down on the zinc. It was a really bad idea.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27100499 - 12/21/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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HamHead said:
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Lynnch said:
:whatnonono:
You thought that as soon as a vaccine arrived, the pandemic would be over overnight? :facepalm:

Herd immunity? What part of ICUs at full capacity do you not understand? :facepalm:


:facepalm:




:shrug:

That's how it's been sold. Wait for a vaccine.

How hard is it to understand that hospitals operate at high capacities during off seasons.

ICUs overflow every year during flu season. It's nothing now.

:hewut:




No they don’t


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27100826 - 12/21/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

A little Christmas humor from Dr. Fauci:



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27100846 - 12/21/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

AstraZeneca to partner with Sputnik V for a combined vaccine.

Putin lauds AstraZeneca as it signs vaccine tie-up deal with Russia
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...the UK would start trials next year using combinations of different kinds of vaccine for the initial and booster vaccinations, in the hope that a “mix-and-match” approach might maximise the immune response.




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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27101110 - 12/21/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Pfizer says they have millions of doses sitting in storage, and they can't do anything with it until the federal government gives them instructions and they're still waiting to hear from them.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27101114 - 12/21/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Come on, I find it hard to believe the trump administration can’t do vaccine distribution competently.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27101126 - 12/21/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think maybe he figures if he's going to have a huge death toll, he wants it to be an incredibly high death toll, so he can say see, I do stuff really really big.

These are still frontline medical people and nursing home patients who are waiting.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27101151 - 12/21/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27101156 - 12/21/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That’s about the daily covid death toll. Obviously the vaccine is the far better choice.

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Don't worry, it's normal.



Completely normal. You get the vaccine. You feel sick because your body thinks you’re infected. That’s literally how they work.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27101548 - 12/21/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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As of Dec. 18, 3,150 people reported what the agency terms “Health Impact Events” after getting vaccinated. The CDC defines “Health Impact Events” as “unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work,” or “required care from a doctor or health care professional.”

I wonder if Santa was one of those who experienced adverse reactions?

Don't worry, it's normal.




so you think that a few adverse but non-life threatening reactions, which are expected, are somehow enough to rule out the vaccine as a logical option, when over 300 000 americans are already dead, and many more experienced life threatening and long lasting symptoms?

To use your own argument against you, did these adversely effective individuals have perfect health and immune systems, is the vaccine to blame or is their own biological inferiority? :strokebeard:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #27101626 - 12/21/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lol bad reactions. Those people had the flu, but they put down “adverse event” because doctor Fauci trademarked the phrase “adverse event” and he gets a nickel every time someone says “adverse event:”

Cha Ching


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Ezuma]
    #27101700 - 12/21/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Great questions!

Going to be tough to reach a specific threshold, say 70% vaccinated, when people with allergies are being told to avoid getting jabbed due to possible reactions.

3,150 is not "a few". And they're just starting. 

I don't think each of those 300,000 dead were directly related to coronavirus. I heard, 6% were directly related to coronavirus, the remaining 94% had on average 2.6 other underlying comorbidities.

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/en/laboratory-services/test-information-index/sars-rt-pcr

"Testing Indications
If SARS Coronavirus is suspected contact the Public Health Ontario laboratory immediately to consult with a microbiologist.

Testing is not routinely available in Canada. If the travel history and clinical presentation raise suspicion of SARS testing may be available through special request at the National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) after approval by PHOL and NML microbiologists.

The SARS – RT-PCR test will be performed by special request only."

I wonder how many cases of SARS1 Canada would have had, had they implemented nation wide testing like they're doing now.

Here's a question.

Someone test positive for coronavirus 19 in June with mild symptoms, gets better and continues on with life. In September, this person has a heart attack with a positive Coronavirus 19 test on his record from 3 months prior, is coronavirus responsible for that heart attack? Or stroke? Or whatever?

Blaming one virus for any number of reasons someone could have died is a little ignorant.

I mean, it's not small pox.

A majority of people survive, even more now that early treatments are being done and stupidity is less prevalent now that the initial shock of an unknown disease and what to do to treat it has passed.

In the beginning, people were being isolated with very limited access. Being put on ventilators when we know now that's not the best thing to be doing right away.

And then there's those nursing homes in NYC.

In all of New York State, about 6,300 patients were sent from hospitals into nursing homes, which ultimately registered between 6,600 and 13,000 deaths.

Belgium reported one of the highest covid death rates in Europe, in part because it always included confirmed and probable covid deaths. 50% of excess deaths in Belgium occurred in nursing homes. Of these, only about a third were confirmed by a PCR test. It is possible that some of the non-confirmed nursing home deaths were not due to covid, but due to the extreme circumstances.

In countries like the UK (lockdown) and Sweden (no lockdown), overall mortality since the beginning of the year is in the range of a strong influenza season; in the US, mortality is in the range of the 1957 and 1968 influenza pandemics; in countries like Germany and Austria, overall mortality is in the range of a mild influenza season (but antibody levels are still low).


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


Edited by HamHead (12/21/20 09:23 PM)


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27101741 - 12/21/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I saw on Facebook that people that have bad reactions to the vaccine have 2.6 comorbidties, usually one needlephobia, one drama queenitis and 0.6 hams in the head.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] * 2
    #27101746 - 12/21/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I had a guy who just got done sniffing coke start telling me about comorbidities this and that and I was like "bruh, you just did a comorbidity"


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] * 1
    #27101756 - 12/21/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hamhead those nursing home patients had 3.6 comorbidites. They didn’t die of covid. Almost by definition, nursing home patients cannot die of covid since they are already dead of fulminating comorbidities.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27101757 - 12/21/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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ballsalsa said:
I had a guy who just got done sniffing coke start telling me about comorbidities this and that and I was like "bruh, you just did a comorbidity"




:takingnotes:


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27101774 - 12/21/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Listen up patriots! This was just updated on my friends Facebook. This isn’t some internet rumor. He says his friend posted that this guy he works with has an aunt who is an editor of the obituary pages in a big news paper, I can’t say which one but it rhymes with Jew Fork Limes. Anyways, she says that 88.3% of quote unquote heart attack victims actually die of AIDS but if the families pay extra they will say it’s a heart attack so people don’t know their relative was a fudge packer. They use this money to fund election fraud in swing states. We need to expose this. WWG1WGA. 🇱🇷God bless america.🇲🇾


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