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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] * 1
    #27083134 - 12/10/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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No Need. Everyone but you understands he was being sarcastic to make a point about the silliness of your ideas. It was not a commentary about HIV.




:shrug:

Whatever.

Feevers mentioned aids, I provide links to interesting, perhaps educational shit and am made fun of.

I get it, cool kids in classroom making fun of smart kid with better science project.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 4
    #27083406 - 12/11/20 03:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Smart kid :burke:


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27083428 - 12/11/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's a one in a quintillion chance that analogy is true


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27083434 - 12/11/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I get it, cool kids in classroom making fun of smart kid with better science project.






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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27083454 - 12/11/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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You’re not an antivaxxer you just post antivaxxer propaganda




My bad. I grabbed the first link when throwing the post together. And had in a rush briefly forgotten that google is heavily censoring certain topics on their search results to make information look a certain way. And so had grabbed the top one, without going to to bottoms pages and grabbing a website that isn't anti-vaaxer but would have said the same information on that particular and specific set of vaccines. Although, in my rush to talk about the other stuff, I did point out that there was TONS of other information that that article mentioned about what I was saying on the specific vaccines. And so was trying to say in a way that whatever their views on that website, that there was a lot of smoke on this particular set of vaccines, elsewhere. And when there is a lot of smoke......

I briefly forgot to vet the website. I know the general info of the article at least the top of it and the premise of what I am and was saying in that post isn't anti-vaxxer. Unless for some reason someone thinks that if a person is against throwing caution to the wind and is against vaccines with known problems but not against vaccines in general and is fully vaccinated is anti-vaxxer then.....


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers] * 1
    #27083457 - 12/11/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I get it, cool kids in classroom making fun of smart kid with better science project.









Thanks man, I'll hang it up next to my mental gymnastics gold medal.

Can't come up with an intelligent argument so resort to default insults.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27083477 - 12/11/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Reality can't be insulting... reality is just reality.

You don't have the slightest background, education, or experience in anything you talk about. Many of us here do. Any response you actually give is a barely-related redirect, copy/pasting some random article about things that most people already know.

Someone then explains to you why what you posted is not actually relevant even though you think it is, or is often actually in direct contradiction to the point you're trying to make, you then don't acknowledge their response, and then you copy/paste your next random link/article. Rinse, repeat.

In the dunning-kruger example you're on what's referred to as mount stupid, where endlessly watching youtube videos and misreading articles has brought you lots of confidence, but you still have no experience or knowledge.

It's fine to be wrong, but when you're so vocally wrong and when the stuff you propose (on a harm reduction site) such as not wearing masks is actually killing people, you're going to get called out for your stupidity and people are going to stop taking the time to respond thoughtfully, because there is no point.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers]
    #27083497 - 12/11/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Reality can't be insulting... reality is just reality.

You don't have the slightest background, education, or experience in anything you talk about. Many of us here do. Any response you actually give is a barely-related redirect, copy/pasting some random article about things that most people already know.

Someone then explains to you why what you posted is not actually relevant even though you think it is, or is often actually in direct contradiction to the point you're trying to make, you then don't acknowledge their response, and then you copy/paste your next random link/article. Rinse, repeat.

In the dunning-kruger example you're on what's referred to as mount stupid, where endlessly watching youtube videos and misreading articles has brought you lots of confidence, but you still have no experience or knowledge.

It's fine to be wrong, but when you're so vocally wrong and when the stuff you propose (on a harm reduction site) such as not wearing masks is actually killing people, you're going to get called out for your stupidity and people are going to stop taking the time to respond thoughtfully, because there is no point.




So, what you're saying is, your reality is the only one that exists and we all should conform to your world views and anything that goes against those ideas, are discounted and deemed to be wrong.

Funny how many doctors have been censored during this pandemic, for sharing information that could possibly help people, but they are shunned and insulted.

And we can get off the mask debate already. It's odd how people who choose not to wear a mask are killing people. You portray me as walking around with a loaded gun, shooting everyone I see because I don't wear a mask.

It's silly, considering SWEDEN!!!

Keep ignoring science and follow along with mainstream media. Fauci said in the beginning mask don't give people the protection they think.

Then, he flip flops.

Why should I listen to this so called medical expert when other medical experts say otherwise?

That's like saying, the Christian god is the only god and other god's are not worthy.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27083514 - 12/11/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mndfreeze]
    #27083523 - 12/11/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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mndfreeze said:
CONSDIERING SWEDEN

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-coronavirus-surge-alarm-stockholm-hospitals-herd-immunity-strategy-2020-12?fbclid=IwAR08uH5ni1YqdV5OSyHn8OLroJAinqVLrw3dSb1gM3323W_OX-xVLqlhlc4


:pleasetellmemore:




Yup.

"The head of the health service in Sweden's capital Stockholm has pleaded for help from the government"

Wonder how the rest of the country is fairing? A Capitol city being overwhelmed is not unusual.

Hospitals operate at 60-80% capacity regardless if there's pandemic.  If they didn't, bills would go unpaid.

The 2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends and family visits and canceling elective surgeries, to name a few.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27083529 - 12/11/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Feel free to just continue ignoring the entire article because it doesn't suit your argument.  Nothing new to see here.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mndfreeze]
    #27083531 - 12/11/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Feel free to just continue ignoring the entire article because it doesn't suit your argument.  Nothing new to see here.




I point out that the Capitol city is being overwhelmed. Doesn't mention anything about the rest of the country.

What am I missing?

Here's some more from your link.

"Tegnell in August criticised countries including the UK and Norway for re-introducing lockdown measures, saying it would be "really detrimental to trust" to do so.

"Lifting and closing things is really detrimental to trust and will also have a lot more negative effects than keeping some kind of level of measures all the time," he told the Observer newspaper. "Opening and closing schools, for example, would be disastrous.""


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


Edited by HamHead (12/11/20 07:19 AM)


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27083532 - 12/11/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Even the Swedes have admitted their strategy was a failure


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27083538 - 12/11/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The entire point apparently.  Your beaming hope of light for your argument, Sweden, has been a myriad of fuckery with how it handled it and low and behold, further proof of the matter is right in your face. 

Trying to deflect away from the data you don't want to see to bring up unrelated whataboutisms is not how debate, learning, or truth seeking works.

Here is some important data you are choosing to ignore because it doesn't fit your conspiracy / antivax / Qanon / nonsense narrative.

"However, the country has since recorded 7,200 Covid-related deaths as of December 8, according to the World Health Organization, meaning it has one of the highest per capita death rates in the world."

The garbage you post and believe is dangerous.  You are an information radicalized terrorist.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mndfreeze] * 2
    #27083552 - 12/11/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The newly sworn in speaker of the house in New Hampshire dropped dead from covid a week after getting the job. He was an anti-masker.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/11/dick-hinch-dead-speaker-covid/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27083564 - 12/11/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The newly sworn in speaker of the house in New Hampshire dropped dead from covid a week after getting the job. He was an anti-masker.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/11/dick-hinch-dead-speaker-covid/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social




Wow, right after it happened the GOP there was saying it was from "cold symptoms" and not COVID. I wonder how many others who he gave it to ended up infecting others because they kept it quiet.

But not anyone's fault at all. It's all natural.  He must just not have been Swedish.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers]
    #27083569 - 12/11/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

His family and friends are rejoicing his death


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: feevers]
    #27083572 - 12/11/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

And a week after his House did this:




One piece of legislation they forced through rolls back democratic legislation that gives peoples first say in commenting on new laws and public interest matters, instead of corporations and special interest groups.

Many of the democrats stayed home because there were confirmed COVID cases in GOP members there.

https://www.unionleader.com/news/health/coronavirus/nh-legislature-gets-off-to-chilly-start/article_64f5e296-f40c-56ab-ac10-079dc802b53b.html


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: mndfreeze]
    #27083580 - 12/11/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The entire point apparently.  Your beaming hope of light for your argument, Sweden, has been a myriad of fuckery with how it handled it and low and behold, further proof of the matter is right in your face. 

Trying to deflect away from the data you don't want to see to bring up unrelated whataboutisms is not how debate, learning, or truth seeking works.

Here is some important data you are choosing to ignore because it doesn't fit your conspiracy / antivax / Qanon / nonsense narrative.

"However, the country has since recorded 7,200 Covid-related deaths as of December 8, according to the World Health Organization, meaning it has one of the highest per capita death rates in the world."

The garbage you post and believe is dangerous.  You are an information radicalized terrorist.




Whoa, a radicalized terrorist?

Are you fucking serious?

Sweden didn't have the kind of psychological shit to deal with. Agreed?

No one yelling at others to put on mask.

No one forcing children to wear mask.

Businesses, small families who have owned and operated businesses, were allowed to operate and provide for their families without a government telling them they have to close their business. Sweden government put trust in their people to take it upon themselves to "flatten the curve", and they did. We're in a new flu season, let us not forget. Flu has not disappeared, and if anyone thinks it has is delusional.

No red and orange zones, where a business is allowed to open two blocks from businesses being forced to close.

Florida has been at 100% operational capacity since September.

China opened up after a month, and is going full steam ahead, no NEW vaccines, that I'm aware of.

India uses HCQ and has 4x USA population with half the deaths. Explanations? Younger population?

Africa is largely being ignored. Why?

Australia was in full lockdown, how are they doing?

These are facts. It can all be researched.

To continue pushing one sided narratives is dangerous, and fascist when other opinions are silenced, banned and censored.

People should be thinking for themselves. When information is censored, people can't gather what information is potentially helpful, and run it through their own mind to make their own decisions. On a website about psychedelics, I'm having a hard time understanding how free thoughts are being insulted.

And calling me a terrorist is a little scary.

People's lives are destroyed by these sorts of accusations.

Do what you want with your own meat vehicle. If you choose to drink alcohol and eat like shit, those are not my choices and I have no right to tell you to do otherwise. I can yell and scream at all those people sitting in a McDonald's drive through, but I don't, because that is their choice.

Yet, there are people who feel a need to tell others how to live their lives because they themselves feel it is unsafe or that they have more or better knowledge than others.

Fauci, for example. Rand Paul mentioned corticosteroids in March and Fauci brushed him off. Now, it is being used and is saving lives.



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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #27083601 - 12/11/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Australia was in full lockdown, how are they doing?




California had more cases yesterday than Australia has had during the entire pandemic. The per capita death rate in the US is 26x higher than Austrialia’s.

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India uses HCQ and has 4x USA population with half the deaths. Explanations? Younger population?



Ever been to India? A lot of their indoor spaces are still open to the outside. Third world living conditions are not conducive to virus transmission. This virus likes enclosed, climate controlled spaces with recycled air.

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People should be thinking for themselves.




No. People are not equipped with the expertise required to make sound decisions on highly technical or specialized topics. You’re the perfect example of why people should not be replacing the wisdom and expertise of professionals with their own ignorant analysis.


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