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After about a month consolidated I'm getting pooling in my semperviva jars. Is it toast or anyone else getting this.
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 Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved)  [Re: Grimsweeper]
#26417754 - 01/05/20 05:17 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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It's normal with overgrown jars
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: cronicr]
#26417823 - 01/05/20 06:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Grimsweeper]
#26449995 - 01/24/20 03:06 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Just broke up about a 10 week old jar for the dehydrator, didn't really see any bruising. 2nd jar had uncolonized grain that I let ride to see if it would ever take it over but never did. Tossed that one but still have another 15 inoculated on 12/18 on the back burner.
I'll have to wait a week or two to try dosing. Just got back from vacation and dosed nearly every day so my tolerance is fucked.
 
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Grimsweeper]
#26498751 - 02/22/20 06:50 PM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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Ok,zapotecorum on the left, caerulescens on the right. Exactly two months today.
Not sure if I should break it up or let it ride another month.
Grim, did you test yours yet?
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Asura]
#26498811 - 02/22/20 07:35 PM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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So I was wondering how you can be sure that you’re not making tea with grain that had bad bacteria as well as the mycelium and then consuming a tea that has a lot of bacterial waste products that might not be the most healthy thing to do?
With a substrate that fruits that has bacteria there is a minimal amount of bacteria that will grow on living mushrooms without that rotting so it’s easy to tell but on grain you could never be sure.
there were people who were selling Cordyceps Tempe and other forms of mushroom tempeh that got in trouble because of high bacteria content, I guess this is a little different because you’re drying it before making tea and they were just frying it or cooking it from fresh but it’s still something that I would be curious about..
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: AyePlus]
#26498815 - 02/22/20 07:39 PM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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Yeah I'd be concerned, too. Just look at those jars. They look kind of gnarly.
I did this with pseudoaztecorum and it was a big success. I dehydrated for a whole
day at 160F. And then boiled it for a good 20 minutes to make tea. I would think
that kills most baddies.
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Asura]
#26498912 - 02/22/20 08:55 PM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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It isnt about the organisms themselves as much as the exudates they produce that arent neccesarily destroyed with heat. Like if your food goes bad you can’t just nuke it and eat it anyways. It will still make you sick even tho the organisms themselves are dead the poisons they make arent..
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Asura]
#26499639 - 02/23/20 11:37 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Asura said:
Ok,zapotecorum on the left, caerulescens on the right. Exactly two months today.
Not sure if I should break it up or let it ride another month.
Grim, did you test yours yet?
Nah I haven't tried it yet. I've had some dehydrated in a jar with a desiccant pack for a while now just haven't got around to it. I guess I'm a little skeeved about the gnarly look too. The jars that have been holding any liquid I've tossed but still have 5 or 6 more that are ready.
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: AyePlus]
#26499846 - 02/23/20 02:01 PM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
AyePlus said:
It isnt about the organisms themselves as much as the exudates they produce that arent neccesarily destroyed with heat. Like if your food goes bad you can’t just nuke it and eat it anyways. It will still make you sick even tho the organisms themselves are dead the poisons they make arent..
I wasn't too scared before, but I am now 
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Asura]
#26500678 - 02/24/20 12:45 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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You know every time I see someone do something like this I can't help but feel they're doing it not because they think fruiting substrate is too costly or time consuming, but because their substrates keep contaminating every time they try to actually use the spawn. 
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Kizzle]
#26500780 - 02/24/20 03:16 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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I have a couple of jars I was saving to try this... I'd rather take them to bulk but wanted to test.
here to watch testing...
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Zapotecorum is a no go for this tek. 3 months of colonization. No bluing whatsoever.
No effects at all.
I'll try the caerulescens next.
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Re: Myceliated Grain TEK (moved) [Re: Asura]
#26557571 - 03/25/20 08:12 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Caerulescens didn't work for me, either. So hoogs and pseudoaztecorum are the only
verified species as of now...I think.
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