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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: morrowasted]
#26550417 - 03/22/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: You do understand that viruses need hosts to survive for extended periods of time, right? 3 weeks is probably too optimistic but in 5 weeks yes I believe we could totally wipe out viral transmission with total lockdown.
This is unrealistic, for several reasons. Firstly, a 'total' lockdown is unlikely to be feasible in a country like the US. Even if this option is chosen, it's impossible to enforce to the extent necessary. Secondly, the case of Wuhan shows that even with drastic limitations, it took them about 14 weeks to get to the (supposed) point of no further transmission. Thirdly, you can't live in a lockdown forever, and a total lockdown will never be universal. There will always be transmissions across county, state and country borders, fueling further flareups.
I'm really sorry, but you're clutching at straws. It's understandable, because we all hope for the best, but your expectations are not realistic.
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: koraks] 1
#26550443 - 03/22/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am arguing about the results of a hypothetical solution and your rebuttal is essentially that said hypothetical solution cant be implemented. Okay, fine.
My point is that the more people stay the fuck home the faster this goes away. I know it isnt going to happen. But I have to try. I want people to be optimistic. My real goal is just to reduce transmission rates to the point that hospitals dont get overwhelmed. Which is probably inevitable. At that point triaging becomes a literal traumatic nightmare.
My state is beginning to recruit NURSING STUDENTS to practice without a license. This totally unprecedented as far as I know.
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: deucedbi9]
#26550448 - 03/22/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Only via the news. Never seen it used here. Where I'm at some pts are receiving remdesivir and azithromycin and others are receiving hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: morrowasted]
#26550450 - 03/22/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: My point is that the more people stay the fuck home the faster this goes away. I know it isnt going to happen. But I have to try.
I agree. Except for the bit 'this goes away'. It is not going to go away. Best case scenario is that it'll subside in a few months and then become a regular part of the viral load people are subject to. Meaning there will always be corona deaths. But I consider it a 'mission accomplished' if at least those deaths aren't caused by a lack of treatment capacity.
And yes, drastic measures are needed. Recruiting students is an obvious choice and sensible under the circumstances.
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: morrowasted]
#26550517 - 03/22/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Only via the news. Never seen it used here. Where I'm at some pts are receiving remdesivir and azithromycin and others are receiving hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin
I read it's quite an old therapy that has been replaced more recently by pharmaceuticals / vaccines.
Even if the azithromycin works, wouldn't that require a global mass dosing of an antibiotic, and all the inherent associated dangers of other disease it's used for becoming immune to it. Like with many pharmaceuticals, you take one drug to counteract anothers side effects which then requires yet another drug to counteract those... Is that a concern, or do we just deal with that / those as and when they arise?
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: morrowasted]
#26550652 - 03/22/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Your medical personnel are starting to die, too
Yeah, but she didn't catch it while working.
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#26550655 - 03/22/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Your medical personnel are starting to die, too
Yeah, but she didn't catch it while working.
True. But hey, give it a few days and you'll have a case of someone in that position.
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: koraks] 1
#26550685 - 03/22/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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What if the carona virus is just this simulations stress test.....
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26550713 - 03/22/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's gods way of testing us
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Re: This is not the last face you want to see on Earth [Re: trees]
#26550738 - 03/22/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bring it on!!!
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