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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: chibiabos]
    #26549260 - 03/21/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Keeping your cultures clean is nothing like trying to fight a novel disease like this.  I'm sure that there are some users who roll by here every once in a while who might be working in labs to help develop assays and whatnot (or even generate just generate data), but this is way above Shroomery's paygrade.




True.

To be honest I'm more looking for a way for the layman to mitigate exposure in situations where they have to be exposed. Hell, I've got a gas mask specifically for riding the bus that I've luckily not had to use yet.

Silly thought. Without filters or anything fancy, what if we merely had a mask that vented our air away from face level?

Imagine an old school gas mask like where it vents to a wallet like apparatus. Vent downward and maybe behind your back?

Someone sneezes or coughs there's a minimal chance of getting infected without having to layer with filtration. Think of it as a plague snorkel.

Again, this is for situations where you have to be around a lot of people. Riding the bus, rail, or waiting in line to checkout.

Thoughts?


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: obscure616] * 1
    #26549302 - 03/21/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Masks aren't going to really help you from getting the virus.  They'll help you from spreading it (because droplets containing viral particles will get stuck in the material) but you're better off just limiting your exposure to other people and washing your hands way more than you think that you should.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: chibiabos] * 3
    #26549347 - 03/21/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: chibiabos]
    #26549546 - 03/21/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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This virus has a fatality rate that at least 60 times or so greater than the flu viruses and you can go through the whole thing without displaying symptoms (which makes it harder to control, since it's not obvious that somebody is carrying it).  It also has a prodromal phase that can last a couple weeks and you're still shedding viral particles for about a week after your symptoms subside.    Even if the flu infects more people it's never caused hospitals to overflow to the point that doctors have to decide to just let patients die.  Quit being a stubborn, selfish cunt.




The flu pandemic of 1918-1919 was the worst in recorded history including the bubonic plague.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26549589 - 03/21/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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This virus has a fatality rate that at least 60 times or so greater than the flu viruses and you can go through the whole thing without displaying symptoms (which makes it harder to control, since it's not obvious that somebody is carrying it).  It also has a prodromal phase that can last a couple weeks and you're still shedding viral particles for about a week after your symptoms subside.    Even if the flu infects more people it's never caused hospitals to overflow to the point that doctors have to decide to just let patients die.  Quit being a stubborn, selfish cunt.




The flu pandemic of 1918-1919 was the worst in recorded history including the bubonic plague.



Yeah, but we aren't seeing a deadly flu pandemic right now.  :shrug:


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: chibiabos]
    #26549613 - 03/21/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder if there is a frequency that could be put out on a mass level that could destroy it.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26549988 - 03/21/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Nice!

I wonder if you could fabricate a mask out of a HEPA house filter, ya know those big square ones.



You can, and many nurses are doing it. Whether or not it is effective remains unclear, but it's certainly better than nothing.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: chibiabos]
    #26549992 - 03/21/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Masks aren't going to really help you from getting the virus.  They'll help you from spreading it (because droplets containing viral particles will get stuck in the material) but you're better off just limiting your exposure to other people and washing your hands way more than you think that you should.



Masks help if you use them right.

Right now masks that aren't supposed to be reused are being reused anyway. They're doing some kind of sterilization procedure on them. Supposedly. God help us all if they're not.

Meanwhile I'm seeing a few nurses in the harder hit areas that are receiving what are essentially gas masks that the government had been reserving for a chemical weapons terrorist attack.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26550002 - 03/21/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I was thinking a skiing/snowboarding type of mask but an enclosed mouth and nose apparatus with leather securing around the face to stop droplets entering the sides and such. Treated with the stuff that makes droplets of shit roll off with a simple shielding securing. I'm still wondering if HEPA filter would work or if it's needed already in the medical field and if so what other material would work? Also possibly Silicone like in wax containers and bongs.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26550021 - 03/22/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wheres the quarantine tek? It's like a martha or Jartha or a self contained quarantine.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: MycoBrainz] * 1
    #26550083 - 03/22/20 01:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A mushroom fourm and nobody has yet mentioned mushrooms? I thought that would be an easy one. Yall, boost your immune system using reishi and/or Turkey tail.  You could build a face shield with goggles and tyvek envelopes. Personally,  I'd just use a welding face shield and a good dust mask, but immune system support supplements is what everyone should be working on if they haven't already . I've got a few bottles of reishi on standby. check out Amazon.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: Ogla] * 1
    #26550266 - 03/22/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

In our defense, most of us arent growing medinical mushrooms here :mushroom2:

But yeah, polypores are said to be very medicinal and might help someone againist the Coronavirus.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #26550287 - 03/22/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I wonder if there is a frequency that could be put out on a mass level that could destroy it.




The brown noise might work


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26550330 - 03/22/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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In our defense, most of us arent growing medinical mushrooms here :mushroom2:

But yeah, polypores are said to be very medicinal and might help someone againist the Coronavirus.



Paul Stamets mentions coronavirus in his patent on agarikon/trametes/ganoderma immunomodulatory supplements.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C44&q=paul+stamets+coronavirus&oq=paul+stamets+coro#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DrFjQF-NvVzMJ
Patents mean nothing as far as scientifically validated ideas go but I think its possible some of these might work in a clinical setting combined with other treatments and medicines.


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Re: Can the shroomery come up with an alternative protection method from COVID ? [Re: Ogla]
    #26550338 - 03/22/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I did try using the filter material, cut from tyvek overalls, that I normally use on my jars fixed to a tube with an elastic band, FSAG. Guess what, you couldn't breath through it.

I might try a less 'dense' material, garden weed suppresser, that I know you can breath through, and stuff the tube with polyfill, again, for FSAG.

Anyone think that the cat you're unwittingly dripping virus all over while it sits purring on your lap, is a vector for transmission to any cat loving neighbours that might pet it when it visits their garden?

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Just out of interest. How would you pet keepers react if the government, realising that cats and dogs were a vector for transmission, ordered the destruction of all such pets?

I'm guessing it would go something like "you can talk my pooch the same time you take my guns, from my cold, dead..."


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