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My little B+ Newbie thread!!
#26549044 - 03/21/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Aright. Well i just bought myself some B+ syringes, rye berries.grow bags with inoculation holes, Casing mix and compost. Were gonna see how this goes i know im missing somthing or doing somthing wrong. Im thinking about mixing a little corn with my mix. Please share experiences. Still dont know what im gonna fruit them in.
Edited by Snoopy563 (03/22/20 08:28 PM)
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563]
#26549051 - 03/21/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Skip the corn.. rye by itself works great
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: fahtster]
#26549170 - 03/21/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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How many syringes should i load into a single bag of rye? Does it make a diffrence? Thats the only question i got.got a pound of rye pound of compost pound of casting
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563]
#26549247 - 03/21/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's usually recommended to not go syringe->grain. But if you plan to do it, 1ml/bag is plenty.
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: poisoned]
#26549462 - 03/21/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Syringe to grain has a piss poor success rate but if you are hell bent on doing it this way just don't put too much in. Like mentioned 1ml is plenty.
I would suggest while you wait for that bag to do whatever it is that it will do try taking a look at agar.
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Anything else i can do with my syringeS! to get a better sucsess rate??
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563]
#26550619 - 03/22/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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What is the best routine to put these suckers in when i want them to fruit
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563]
#26550634 - 03/22/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Agar is what you want to look into to do more with your syringes petri dishes really allow you to examine and isolate mycelium so it can be propagated cleanly.
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: poisoned]
#26551375 - 03/22/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is there a reason people only inoculate in just grain, can i add my manure to my grain before inoculation? Why not?
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563]
#26551387 - 03/22/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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No grains need to be kept separate in jar amongst themselves. The mycelium loves the little clean grains. Then when you have lots of jars with only grains and mycelium you can mix them with the sterilized Substrate to grow in like manure, coco coir, peat and such
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: rumfor69] 1
#26551411 - 03/22/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Probably want to pasteurize manure and peat
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563]
#26552497 - 03/23/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It doesn't make a lot of sense. Get those grains colonized ASAP and then deal with your bulk sub.
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: poisoned]
#26552650 - 03/23/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Try searching all this stuff in the search engine and you'll find 20 other posts normally with the same issues. That's how I've found out so much stuff. Read up on how the lifecycle of the culture2fruit and the phases of the grow. Keep it simple and follow a proven tek to the T. Any little mishap could ruin the whole operation. Don't want to waste your time so get into agar if you want more success > failure.
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#26554217 - 03/23/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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How do u guys spawn since u dont use rye, you just slap your syringe or whatnot right into a bin..
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563] 1
#26554228 - 03/23/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Snoopy563 said: How do u guys spawn since u dont use rye, you just slap your syringe or whatnot right into a bin..
take your bag of grain that you have, take your syringe needle and use your stove or a lighter to get the needle red hot (watch out and do not melt the lastic on the connector of the needle to the syringe). Squirt a tiny amount into the air, you will hear the needle fizz or pop do this to cool down the needle. When you hear no more hissing, stick the needle into the grain bag in the self healing port. Squirt only 1 cc in the bag. Shake the bag so you can disperse the spores throughout the bag. Put the bag somewhere where it will get some light, but not directly into the sun light! Keep it in an area where you would feel comfortable. Good rule to follow is, if your comfortable in the temperature, then your mycelium will be comfortable. NO HEATERS OR HEATING PADS! After a while (hopefully) you will begin to see mycelium growing on the grains. Do not overly and obsessively pick up the bag all the time. Do keep an eye out though for contamination. Once the bag is around %30 to 40% percent covered with mycelium, you can use your hands and break up the grains and shake the bag in order to spread out the mycelium. Once the bag is fully covered with mycelium, then you can proceed to mixing it with bulk substrate. Straight coco coir is effective and you do not need to get all fancy. Check out making shoeboxes from mushboy or Bod's shoebox AND bulk prep tek's so you can learn how to fruit them out.
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Snoopy563]
#26554870 - 03/24/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Snoopy563 said: How do u guys spawn since u dont use rye, you just slap your syringe or whatnot right into a bin..
The whole process can be confusing at first. There are different stages and I think you’re getting them mixed up.
The most common way to get good consistent yields of mushrooms, without contamination is this:
Get a spore print or syringe.
Get Petri dishes with agar - this step turns a lot of people off but unless you want to inject spores into BRF cakes (not a bad way to go but you will get 5% of the yield for 10x the cost and will have to keep ordering spore syringes unless you can competently make your own, but then you’re still stuck with multi spore grows and can never clone or isolate a good strain)
Look up an agar TEK, it’s really simple once you understand it and go through the process a time or two.
You’ll need to make a Still Air Box. Simple info to find here.
Get Petri dishes with clean agar, scrape spores onto them (or a piece of mushroom to clone once you’ve had a successful grow)
During this stage you’re trying to get clean, healthy mycelium on your plates. The agar TEK or STRO’S Isolation and Cloning will explain more about this.
Once you have good myc to use you will inoculate some sterilized grain jars. This will become your “grain spawn” - This stage is very important to stay sterile. Your grain spawn is sterilized nutrition, ready for anything at all to eat and you just make sure it’s your mycelium eating. During this stage look up G2G transfers to easily expand your spawn as it’s the most important factor in final yield.
Once you have fully colonized grain spawn it is pretty hardy stuff. Now you can safely mix it in with pasteurized or whatever else Bulk Substrate. The bulk substrate will offer some nutrients and maybe minerals or whatever to help out but it’s main purpose is providing the water and the proper texture for mushrooms to thrive. So you mix your grain spawn with bulk substrate and allow the mycelium to take over the whole thing, and then fruit it. Many teks on this as well but most important for cubes is fresh air.
You can actually spawn colonized BRF cakes to bulk substrate but I really don’t think it does as well as grains.
Once I got going, with free access to horse poo, I could get an LB of mushrooms for a few bucks and a lot of fun work. Wow this ended up a lot longer than intended lol. Hopefully someone reads it. It’s accurate of my experience in the mushroom growing world
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Some of the information here I like, but it's too much all at once for this guy, he needs learn the basics some of you guys are trying to send him head firat to agar, thats ok...but its all alot to learn. Vendor syringe especially to vendor grain bag and following sterill teks your going to be ok, its 2nd best. Not worst... people have only been noccing up grain bags with ms syringes for probably 30 years. Agar work makes alot of people feel like advanced mycologist, it definatley serves a purpose, but to a noob just tryin to get some feuits. Doesn't necessarily have to take the balls deep approach. Dont fruit in the bags look up some tub teks. Shoot up your rye, spread it around, a little goes along way. Multispore genetics is what you'll deal with, alot of vendor spores are from good genetics to begin with but it doent always mean success. Its not like betting on red or black if it will work. It will if steril teks are followed. Agar is just more advanced and controlled.
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#26555016 - 03/24/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hobbit GDF said: Try searching all this stuff in the search engine and you'll find 20 other posts normally with the same issues. That's how I've found out so much stuff. Read up on how the lifecycle of the culture2fruit and the phases of the grow. Keep it simple and follow a proven tek to the T. Any little mishap could ruin the whole operation. Don't want to waste your time so get into agar if you want more success > failure.
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While I don't disagree with trying their luck with a few jars, agar is not hard. It's easy, it's fun and it keeps you busy, so you're not checking those jars every few minutes. And when those jars go bad, you have something better to work with and some better techniques to apply when doing transfers.
Doing agar early is my recommendation from noob to another noob.
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Re: My little B+ Newbie thread!! [Re: Grungeman17]
#26555289 - 03/24/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you man! You told me really what i needed to hear. Everyone elae really made me paranoid, Cant wait to get started.
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