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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods] 2
#26547836 - 03/20/20 11:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Vanderbilt Univesity Hospital in Nashville. This is the parking garage.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods] 1
#26547837 - 03/20/20 11:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: I guess through all that, it just makes me really suspicious of their mortality count.
There hasn't been any new deaths in a while...but it slowed down so quickly and then just..stopped, yet they were still reporting new cases and sources on the web say they have over 2000 patients in critical condition still
So I do really wonder if maybe there has been way more deaths there than they let on... IDK
not trying to spread conspiracy theories just, it is fucking weird
There is tons of anecdotal evidence that the outbreak is over in China.
It's not over. It's on hold.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koraks]
#26547852 - 03/21/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah. If they relax too much it will come back but I also think they are probably on top of any new cases and many of those cases are people who had already been quarantined from previous known exposures. China needs to ban travel from the rest of the world. Any country with a low case count can still knock this down if they isolate themselves. Hell West Virginia could do that if they closed their borders
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods] 3
#26547934 - 03/21/20 01:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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nooneman said: Can confirm ibuprofen does worsen symptoms. If you have covid or symptoms, do not take ibuprofen.
Also stimulants seem to mildly improve symptoms. Maybe only 20%, but I'll take what I can get.
Covid sucks ass, take my word for it, you don't want it. I'm on day 5 and my symptoms continue to get worse each day. I thought it was bad on wednesday, but it got significantly worse the past two days.
Good luck. Do you know how you got it?
Yeah, best of luck to you nooneman. Maybe you should send jokeshop a swab, so he can put his money your swab, where his mouth is.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9]
#26547971 - 03/21/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does anyone else watch NY Gov Cuomo’s news conferences becasue they are so calm and filled with lots of data, even though that data looks really bad?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26548009 - 03/21/20 02:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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At least they are preparing something
Been reading up on the Germany situation. Leave it to the Germans to be at least somewhat prepared for this. Almost 30K ICU's in the country and they test a lot of people, a lot. The consensus is they start treating people with off-label medicine early on thereby mitigating the most severe effects of the illness
You can say what you want about "Ze Germans" but they are a well organized people
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26548012 - 03/21/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Has anybody realized yet that we're entering an event that is potentially (sadly, likely) similar in its order of magnitude to the Holocaust in terms of death toll?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: Kizzle]
#26548018 - 03/21/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: North Korea claims to have no cases, saying they're immune.
North Korea also claimed to land a 17 year old on the sun
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/mad-mad-world/story/north-korean-becomes-first-man-to-land-on-sun-183451-2014-03-03
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26548019 - 03/21/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said: Did they hide deaths? Maybe. I think they realized early on that the only way they could stop the virus is by being accurate with their data. If you are hiding a covid death then you aren’t tracing their contacts and making sure you can break the chain of transmission as much as possible. Hiding one death means possibly allowing a whole new cluster to develop.
There's this 1/2 hour documentary thing on YouTube made by the BBC. They compare the responses of China, Italy, the USA, and Taiwan. They wanted to see if being a totalitarian government helped to contain the virus because the Chinese president could just make decisions on the spot.
At the end of the show, they said that China tried to cover it up in the early stages making REALLY FUCKING IMPORTANT INFORMATION impossible to come by. They said if China had been more open from the start, we would have had more time to prepare.
Ultimately, they said Taiwan is the example the world should follow.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26548025 - 03/21/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said: They said if China had been more open from the start, we would have had more time to prepare.
Oh, come on. There was sufficient information available for even a lay person with access to Wikipedia-level knowledge to recognize the potential of this thing by the 2nd week of January. Yes, it could have been 3 weeks earlier than that. But what have we done since around January 10 in terms of preparation?
"The Chinese messed up and that's why we're in deep shit now" - bullshit, we just looked away.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: Niffla]
#26548026 - 03/21/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: North Korea claims to have no cases, saying they're immune.
North Korea also claimed to land a 17 year old on the sun
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/mad-mad-world/story/north-korean-becomes-first-man-to-land-on-sun-183451-2014-03-03
That's freakin awesome
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koraks] 3
#26548033 - 03/21/20 02:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koraks said: Has anybody realized yet that we're entering an event that is potentially (sadly, likely) similar in its order of magnitude to the Holocaust in terms of death toll?
Yeah most people realise, hence the fear. I tripped last night and this shit ate me for a little while on the tail end and had to accept it and just let it wash over me. Feels better now. Everyone should just trip and eat it hard. If we're going to die we're better off dying without the fear, and we'll be better equipped to deal with it too.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26548036 - 03/21/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: At least they are preparing something
Been reading up on the Germany situation. Leave it to the Germans to be at least somewhat prepared for this. Almost 30K ICU's in the country and they test a lot of people, a lot. The consensus is they start treating people with off-label medicine early on thereby mitigating the most severe effects of the illness
You can say what you want about "Ze Germans" but they are a well organized people
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koods said: Did they hide deaths? Maybe. I think they realized early on that the only way they could stop the virus is by being accurate with their data. If you are hiding a covid death then you aren’t tracing their contacts and making sure you can break the chain of transmission as much as possible. Hiding one death means possibly allowing a whole new cluster to develop.
There's this 1/2 hour documentary thing on YouTube made by the BBC. They compare the responses of China, Italy, the USA, and Taiwan. They wanted to see if being a totalitarian government helped to contain the virus because the Chinese president could just make decisions on the spot.
At the end of the show, they said that China tried to cover it up in the early stages making REALLY FUCKING IMPORTANT INFORMATION impossible to come by. They said if China had been more open from the start, we would have had more time to prepare.
Ultimately, they said Taiwan is the example the world should follow.
We had plenty of time. We knew what was going on in China. We could have kept an eye on anyone who had returned from China to make sure they weren’t getting ill. It’s becoming clear that the outbreaks in California and Washington were more contained than what we were worrying about. A lot of resources were focused on those stated while on the east coast people were coming back from Europe seeding what is going to turn out to be the biggest disaster in this country: the New York City outbreak which is far far worse than what’s happening out west.
There are under surveilled outbreaks in New Jersey, Michigan and Louisiana.
We need to ban travel to and from the New York metro area now I
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: twighead]
#26548038 - 03/21/20 02:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: North Korea claims to have no cases, saying they're immune.
North Korea also claimed to land a 17 year old on the sun
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/mad-mad-world/story/north-korean-becomes-first-man-to-land-on-sun-183451-2014-03-03
That's freakin awesome 
The kid got there in just 4 hours too. In about the same time I can drive from Dallas to Houston.
Impressive.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26548052 - 03/21/20 03:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: At least they are preparing something
Been reading up on the Germany situation. Leave it to the Germans to be at least somewhat prepared for this. Almost 30K ICU's in the country and they test a lot of people, a lot. The consensus is they start treating people with off-label medicine early on thereby mitigating the most severe effects of the illness
You can say what you want about "Ze Germans" but they are a well organized people
Yes, that's why low deaths stats they have. Italian and Spanish are typical "Siesta FIESTA" life style and OPEN BORDERS, because It's fucking good if you allow everybody in the earth to come to your country.
Some articles said Covid 19 has been there in January. Milano has got big a Chinese colony and Italian government give a fuck. Italians are very mobility folk that's why every where can be found Covid 19 where Italians went and travelled.
I met lot of people because my business profil is luggage storage, airport transfer and key saving for Airbnbs. So I met Chinese in december who are from Chine after in January met with Italians, Spanish people. After I got flu effects but usually I don't get anything my immun system is good. But It was unusually. It was taken 2-3 weeks (it was not horrible). I don't know I have got it or no.
(Unfortunately I can't get testing myself because I have to meet someone who has got it and it is proved by the government and you must to have massive effects.) being late with this shitshow protocol ... 
Im staying at home, because some people have low immunity state and i don't want to kill others
So the conclusion social distance is the key. Stay at your home try to decrease your activity on the outside and MAYBE one fucking day Covid-19 will go away to the hell. 
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: koraks]
#26548054 - 03/21/20 03:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Chinese covered it up from the start. Surely you must be familiar with that Wuhan doctor they arrested and publicly dressed down? "Nothing to see here! Just some crazy doctor with some crazy ideas!"
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26548059 - 03/21/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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China must be held accountable.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#26548060 - 03/21/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jesus christ the point was fucking lost all together. It's not about holding someone accountable. I just pointed out what the BBC documentary said. Y'all are free to believe what you want.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26548063 - 03/21/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter how it happened.
It came from China.
China arrested & jailed the doctor who warned us.
When your friends & family start dying you will want China held accountable for their actions at all cost.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Pandemic 2020 [Re: PumpJackTeX] 1
#26548069 - 03/21/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you actually look at the details of what transpired, it was the local government in Wuhan that tried hide the outbreak from the public, after they realized something was going on the last week of December. The last few days of December some doctors started to post about the situation. They were reprimanded but their message was already out.
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• On 31 December 2019, the WHO China Country Office was informed of cases of pneumonia unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China. From 31 December 2019 through 3 January 2020, a total of 44 case-patients with pneumonia of unknown etiology were reported to WHO by the national authorities in China. During this reported period, the causal agent was not identified. • On 11 and 12 January 2020, WHO received further detailed information from the National Health Commission China that the outbreak is associated with exposures in one seafood market in Wuhan City. • The Chinese authorities identified a new type of coronavirus, which was isolated on 7 January 2020. • On 12 January 2020, China shared the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus for countries to use in developing specific diagnostic kits.
The world was on notice within 4 days of it becoming apparent to doctors in Wuhan that they were seeing a lot of pneumonia cases of unknown cause. The Chinese government was clearly taking this seriously even if they were downplaying it publicly. public health officials around the world were aware of the situation by mid January.
I see no evidence they were not addressing the outbreak or hiding it from other governments. Only that they were trying to keep what was happening from the public.
Here’s trump being asked if he’s concerned about the situation. We could have contained this if we had been more vigilant and proactive.
The Chinese gave the world the genetic code for the virus on January 12th so other countries could test and identify cases in their own countries. We still don’t have testing up and running as needed. We let this virus spread literally undetected in the largest city in the country for weeks. How did we let 10,000 people get infected without even knowing it was happening.
Don’t play into their hands. The reason they are trying to shift blame to China is because they need a scapegoat for what is about to happen.
The Trump adminstration downplayed and hid data from the public for months. We went 5 weeks without ramping up testing when it was needed the most. There was no consideration for the possibility that this virus could be spreading within the United States. It was only people from China that were a threat. China locked down Wuhan when there were 100 cases. We had two months to see what happened. We let 5,000 people get infected in New York before anyone even thought about closing businesses. We are now at 10,000 in NYC and we still haven shut down movement out of the city. China showed us what to do and not to do. We just ignored it until it was too late. It’s an absolutely travesty what is happening right now.
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