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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: christopera]
    #26542337 - 03/18/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Stock buybacks remove those shares from the market. They are destroyed and the number of outstanding shares is reduced. If the company needed to raise money selling shares they would need a new public offering.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: christopera]
    #26542571 - 03/18/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Can't they sell of stock to generate the capital they need to continue? I thought that was the point of selling stocks in the first place.

In Canada the banks are deferring mortgage payments for 6 months. Now that would help! I doubt we will see that in the states.




Why dilute your shares with stock issuance when your government can give you free money? 

The CEO's and executives got rich from borrowing trillions of dollars to buy back overvalued shares. Now that everything is going to shit, they don't want to deal with their irresponsibility. The Banksters on Wall Street never lose, only the peasants take the hit.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: qman] * 2
    #26542795 - 03/18/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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What's really disgusting is all of these industries that now need Federal bailouts (free money) pissed away trillions of dollars the past ten years on share buybacks. Now they have almost zero cash and trillions of debt. So what's the reward for irresponsible corporate behavior? Free money in the form of government bailouts!!!




Is it trickling down yet? I was promised that the Republican Tax Scam was gonna trickle down onto me!


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Kryptos]
    #26542806 - 03/18/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yesss
Just close your eyes and open your mouth :stonedjerk:


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26543534 - 03/18/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: qman]
    #26544945 - 03/19/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You know what we should try?

We should try cutting taxes on corporations and raising taxes on the working class.

That should work beautifully.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Kryptos]
    #26544949 - 03/19/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We’ll find out how well it works soon enough, I’m sure :shrug:


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: qman] * 1
    #26545019 - 03/19/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-jpmorgan-usa/jp-morgan-slashes-forecast-for-u-s-gdp-sees-14-second-quarter-drop-idUSKBN2153HU

https://business.financialpost.com/investing/u-s-economy-will-shrink-by-14-as-coronavirus-leads-to-worst-contraction-in-50-years-jpmorgan-warns

It appears the US and the rest of the world is in the early stages of entering a global economic depression.  :sad:




I called it two years ago 🤓

Unemployment in the US could hit 20% by May.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: koods]
    #26545089 - 03/19/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Called it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/world/coronavirus-update-cases.html

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Senate Republicans on Thursday unveiled an economic rescue plan that would provide hundreds of billions of dollars worth of loans to big corporations and small businesses, large corporate tax cuts and checks of $1,200 for taxpayers, as well as limits on a paid leave program enacted this week to respond to the coronavirus crisis.

Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, introduced the proposal after private talks with Republicans and the White House, but it is likely to face opposition from Democrats who have their own plans and have pushed for more generous paid leave benefits.

The 247-page bill would provide the $1,200 payments to those earning up to $75,000 a year, phasing out the payments for higher earners and limiting them to those who earn up to $99,000.




I don't even get paid. But there will be large corporate tax cuts again! And they think we Americans are getting a little too much sick leave, and need to get back to work.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #26545184 - 03/19/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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You know what we should try?

We should try cutting taxes on corporations and raising taxes on the working class.

That should work beautifully.




Just wait, this is the perfect excuse to start fiscal austerity by making major spending cuts in SS, Medicare and other social programs.


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    #26545200 - 03/19/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Kryptos]
    #26545274 - 03/19/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

#winning


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: qman]
    #26545978 - 03/20/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
You know what we should try?

We should try cutting taxes on corporations and raising taxes on the working class.

That should work beautifully.




Just wait, this is the perfect excuse to start fiscal austerity by making major spending cuts in SS, Medicare and other social programs.




Some will definitely try. Whether they can get away with it is uncertain. I think the peasants may be getting angry enough to stop it. Maybe.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26545985 - 03/20/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What pressure?

These guys are in safe districts. They aren't under pressure. If the peasants get too uppity, there are always airstrikes.

Like the ones we dropped in Iraq yesterday.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Kryptos]
    #26546006 - 03/20/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Some elites live in safe districts, gated communities etc. But a lot of them like to live in swanky areas downtown and are very close to the poor.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26546021 - 03/20/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think we're talking about two different aspects here. When I say "safe districts" I mean politically safe. They won't get voted out. A good third of Congress could probably drive down the street and machine gun their constituents, like that warlord's kid in "Lord of War" and still get re-elected.

In terms of location and physical safety, we've already seen that the more money you have the faster you get tested, so I don't see why treatment would be any different. Wealthy go first. Further, swanky downtown buildings tend to have higher end private security.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Kryptos]
    #26546023 - 03/20/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Time to refinance all your loans.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: MycoBrainz]
    #26546047 - 03/20/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I talked to my financial guy about that yesterday, and he actually suggested waiting a week or two to refinance. Everybody and their dog is trying to refinance right now, which is pushing interest rates up for the common consumer.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26546067 - 03/20/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
You know what we should try?

We should try cutting taxes on corporations and raising taxes on the working class.

That should work beautifully.




Just wait, this is the perfect excuse to start fiscal austerity by making major spending cuts in SS, Medicare and other social programs.




Some will definitely try. Whether they can get away with it is uncertain. I think the peasants may be getting angry enough to stop it. Maybe.




If I was part of The Elite, I wouldn't hesitate at all to make those cuts.  The US population is full of politically unmotivated sheep. They take whatever abuse that is thrown at them and rationalize it. Until people are willing to protest on the streets, they deserve exactly what is coming their way.


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Re: The Federal Reserve [Re: qman] * 1
    #26546092 - 03/20/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Idk about “deserve” but you’re right, we won’t get any real change unless we usher it in ourselves.

True socialism must be started from the bottom. The idea is to have a revolution which, by its very nature, teaches the masses how to navigate policy and effectively govern themselves.

The system must be put in place by the masses, not the elite. Only then can it be a system that won’t be used against the masses later.


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