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4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry?
#26544526 - 03/19/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, I have my 4 tubs, 1:1.5 ratio on both. The tub that is 100% is 8 days into colonizing. The other one is 7 days into colonizing. The substrate on this one is substantially more dry (not sure what happened, followed the exact same process for the first 50/50 mix, the coir bricks did look larger but I did not weigh them to confirm 650g weight). Anyways, my question is: are my more dry monotubs at risk of stalling or is it just going to be a slow climb to the finish? I am definitely not opening it, although, there is barely a few specs of mycelium poking through the top. I also have the sides taped so I can not peak at the side progress, though I am debating removing some of the tape to check.
Thoughts?
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: TheReckoning]
#26544544 - 03/19/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The tape doesn’t do anything so you can take it off to see if you want.
Also opening the tub won’t hurt it. You’ll have to put some pics up but if there’s no surface myc after a week that’s not good. I’d open it and look for mold/myc and smells then spray the surface if it’s too dry.
That’s about all you can do really.
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: A.k.a]
#26544563 - 03/19/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: The tape doesn’t do anything so you can take it off to see if you want.
Also opening the tub won’t hurt it. You’ll have to put some pics up but if there’s no surface myc after a week that’s not good. I’d open it and look for mold/myc and smells then spray the surface if it’s too dry.
That’s about all you can do really.
I only taped the sides, I peaked at the bottom and the bottom is about 85% colonized. There is surface mycelium just very very sparse (basically a grain growing upwards, but appears to be not spreading through the surface. I am assuming it is just too dry on my top layer, possibly with the combination of my top layer being too thick on these two other tubs. The first 2 tubs are beautiful and debating putting into fruiting conditions.
What is the consensus on consolidation in monotubs? Are we still doing that? The only information from a TC I can find is very old and that consolidation is still done.
EDIT: Since there is very minimal mycelium on the surface, I do not believe I will trigger pinning by opening the tub since the top 50/50 layer is blocking a majority of the substrate. I do not suspect contams by any means, it is very evident that the top layer is dry as the Sahara, and the mycelium is struggling to colonize it.
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Edited by TheReckoning (03/19/20 12:11 PM)
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: TheReckoning]
#26544579 - 03/19/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Most are doing fruit at spawn now.
Might be a thick top layer hiding the myc but giving it a little misting to see what happens can’t hurt.
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: A.k.a]
#26544585 - 03/19/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I updated my previous post if you want to take a look. I will open it and mist it, I don't think there is a risk of triggering pinning since there is barely any mycelium.
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: TheReckoning]
#26544611 - 03/19/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here are some pics, I decided to go ahead and moisten the surface. As you can see by the first tub splitting down the middle (not the sturdiest bottom tubs), it was pretty dry. Only the top layer split, not the substrate itself.
Bottom of first tub:

Top layer of first tub:

Bottom of second tub:

Top layer of second tub:

Based on the patchiness on the bottom, it looks like I didn't mix my substrate as thoroughly as I did with my other MS tubs. This might be a tub that's in it for the long haul to reach 100%.
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Edited by TheReckoning (03/19/20 12:25 PM)
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: TheReckoning]
#26544996 - 03/19/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It looks pretty good so far. I’d definitely give the surface a good spray down. It seems like it’s doing ok from the bottom so maybe the myc is staying under the top layer cuz it’s dry. Idk if that’s even a thing though lol.
I’ve had the sub kinda crack like that in bigger tubs from not picking it up right when I had to move it.
How much spawn is in there and how thick is the top layer? Could just be a slow culture taking its time.
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: TheReckoning]
#26545015 - 03/19/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are they the same strain?
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: OJ777]
#26545076 - 03/19/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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OJ777 said: Are they the same strain?
I have 4 tubs, the 2 that are performing well are Dancing Tiger. These 2 tubs are Ban Hua Thannon. They're MS anyways, maybe this one is just a slow colonizer and I won the genetic lottery with the other one because it reached 100% colonization in 8 days in the tub.
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Re: 4 Tubs, 2 MS - One is 100%, the other has barely scratched the surface. Substrate too dry? [Re: TheReckoning]
#26545259 - 03/19/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I’d say that the strain differentiation would be the cause in between colonization times, although I have no knowledge on either strain’s colonization periods at the moment. Assuming that your required conditions are the same for both strains, I’d give it time and relax🙃
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