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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: psi]
    #26545204 - 03/19/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die?




Quote:

Asante said:
Maybe we should let the coldhearted and ruthless die.




I think we're all saying the same thing here? Aren't the old people hoarding all the wealth the reason for most everyone's daily suffering?

Also I have no idea what I'm talking about.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26546066 - 03/20/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't say the "old people are holding all the wealth", but "they" are keeping the rules/laws in place that allow them to gouge the market to their benefit.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: ichugwindex] * 3
    #26546129 - 03/20/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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ichugwindex said:

I think we're all saying the same thing here? Aren't the old people hoarding all the wealth the reason for most everyone's daily suffering?






I don't think this would be accurate at all. Yes there are extremely wealthy "old people" in the world, but the vast majority of them die anywhere from below the poverty line to middle class at best.

And there are a ton of absurdly wealthy people out there who wouldn't fall under the "old people" umbrella at all. Especially since we live in the era of dot com billionaires.

Mark Zuckerberg, 35, is worth 56 billion. Bezos is worth 111 billion and is still at least a decade away from reaching senior citizen status. The guy who found Twitter is barely past 40 I think. Uber's founder is a billionaire and is 43. Just to name a few. Maybe once upon a time (IE before the dot come era) the statement that all the old were the wealthy was more accurate but today that's not the case.

Oh yeah, didn't Kylie freaking Jenner become the world's youngest billionaire recently? She's barely old enough to drink


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: psi]
    #26546416 - 03/20/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Patlal sometimes takes edgy a bit too far. A while back someone was asking if anyone knew what happened to keyohnah, and he was joking that she died, and ultimately it turned out that she had.

:feelsbadman:






Wait Keyohnah died???


I thought that she got gotten sober and was okay...fuck dude. Terrible.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26546430 - 03/20/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You propose:

Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die?



I propose:



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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: pirate-blues] * 3
    #26546485 - 03/20/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

psi said:
Patlal sometimes takes edgy a bit too far. A while back someone was asking if anyone knew what happened to keyohnah, and he was joking that she died, and ultimately it turned out that she had.

:feelsbadman:






Wait Keyohnah died???


I thought that she got gotten sober and was okay...fuck dude. Terrible.



Yeah that was the last I had heard too. Looked back at the last thread where I interacted with her and I was just bragging about some work nonsense and didn't really give a "welcome back". Such a warm person and I felt shitty that that was our last interaction (not that we had a close connection aside from agreeing on some stuff in discussion threads.)


These things usually get announced in the RIP thread in the vets forum. I guess JSB and Newbie had both dated her and there was maybe some awkwardness around that. Maybe I overstepped but I suggested at the time that it might be good for them and some other people who knew her well to hang out and reminisce.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: psi] * 3
    #26546519 - 03/20/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wow what a tragedy. Rest in paradise, girl.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: pirate-blues] * 3
    #26546544 - 03/20/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



:sad:


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: Niffla]
    #26546721 - 03/20/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Niffla said:
Oh yeah, didn't Kylie freaking Jenner become the world's youngest billionaire recently? She's barely old enough to drink



Never heard of her before this post... lol


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: Northerner]
    #26546753 - 03/20/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:scat::scat::scat:


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #26547017 - 03/20/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We do let them die, that's what hospice is for.  But if the old and vulnerable go infirm and die all at once, we're all gonna have a bad time. Like, a really bad time, man.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: stubb]
    #26547731 - 03/20/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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stubb said:
We do let them die, that's what hospice is for.  But if the old and vulnerable go infirm and die all at once, we're all gonna have a bad time. Like, a really bad time, man.



How? Without the VERY few outliers that someone posted earlier a HUGE portion of the wealth is hoarded by the "at risk" age group. Plus on top of that god/the earth/ etc actually chose this to happen for our benefit. We will all be fine because the universe transferred that selfish old wealth to us.

Those selfish few locked us into this capitalist system and they are about to be buried underneath the weight of their own selfishness and greed along with their entire generation. A win/win

Innocent elderly will die but the universe doesnt give a fuck. This is the closest thing I have seen to justice in my lifetime


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26547880 - 03/21/20 12:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:
“The measure of a civilization is how it treats its weakest members.”




I like your purity ring avatar. I'd like to believe this quote, but at least in my country (These United States) it doesn't feel this way.:shrug:


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
    #26547887 - 03/21/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ichugwindex said:

How? Without the VERY few outliers that someone posted earlier a HUGE portion of the wealth is hoarded by the "at risk" age group. Plus on top of that god/the earth/ etc actually chose this to happen for our benefit. We will all be fine because the universe transferred that selfish old wealth to us.

Those selfish few locked us into this capitalist system and they are about to be buried underneath the weight of their own selfishness and greed along with their entire generation. A win/win

Innocent elderly will die but the universe doesnt give a fuck. This is the closest thing I have seen to justice in my lifetime





The universe doesn't give a shit either way - BOOMERS could become transhuman life extensionists with exponential immortal wealth.

Imagine that nightmare.:lol:

The universe gives no fucks. :crankey:


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: Mr. Material] * 7
    #26547924 - 03/21/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I love old people.

They know the value of life and many things in it and are pretty socially open minded. Don't forget most of the OG hippies are boomers. Most of the folk who fought in the civil rights movement are boomers. The people who paved the way for social acceptance of individuality are boomers.

Really. Show some fucking gratitude.


I mean quite generally I'm tired of boomer being an insult and I'm very tired of how elderly are treated by the system. Most of them are not rich white cunts.

We have issues in our society involved with obsessing over negativity and only focusing on the fault of anything. it completely overshadows the value of wisdom in age and how we already ship off or ignore the elderly to die from inadequate healthcare and lack of social circles they can depend on.

These are millions of human beings with as much value or rights as anyone and we don't treat them like it and now we have a shitty meme to sum up what inhumane cunts we are in a single word. "Ok boomer."

Grow up.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26547929 - 03/21/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, I recently started getting very angry at people who deserve it. I like standing up to them.

Most of them feel like they have some kind of power. Or that they are better.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 5
    #26547933 - 03/21/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I love old people.

They know the value of life and many things in it and are pretty socially open minded. Don't forget most of the OG hippies are boomers. Most of the folk who fought in the civil rights movement are boomers. The people who paved the way for social acceptance of individuality are boomers.

Really. Show some fucking gratitude.


I mean quite generally I'm tired of boomer being an insult and I'm very tired of how elderly are treated by the system. Most of them are not rich white cunts.

We have issues in our society involved with obsessing over negativity and only focusing on the fault of anything. it completely overshadows the value of wisdom in age and how we already ship off or ignore the elderly to die from inadequate healthcare and lack of social circles they can depend on.

These are millions of human beings with as much value or rights as anyone and we don't treat them like it and now we have a shitty meme to sum up what inhumane cunts we are in a single word. "Ok boomer."

Grow up.



QFT. These 'boomers' are the people who brought us up, or who brought our parents up.
They worked their asses off to make the diapers we wore when the word 'boomer' didn't exist yet.
By and large they just tried to do the best job they could, within their knowledge and capabilities, to make a prosperous world for us to live in.
The vast majority aren't disproportionately wealthy, and are just not any better off economically than the rest of us.

They're not pariahs. They're just us, a few decades down the road.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: watermelon mon] * 4
    #26547960 - 03/21/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Everyone likes to feel like they're better than someone. We have a hard time gauging our value without judging someone elses.


That's why it's easy to hate on boomers. Cuz surely our generation can't fuck up as bad as theirs.

(Let's conveniently ignore civil rights, antiwar movement and feminism that allowed women to be autonomous and have their own wants and desires.)


Nothing makes me angrier than devaluing an entire class of people. But it's sadly pretty fucking typical.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26548177 - 03/21/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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How?




Because it would crush every public health infrastructure in the world.


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Re: Why don't we just let the old and vulnerable die? [Re: stubb]
    #26552367 - 03/23/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This old people might be Your mom, dad, grandparents and young people still can die. We all have to fight with that virus. Stay home and if u can use folding@home


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