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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26541173 - 03/17/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We argue for hours about ego death on here, though I rarely comment (because I would never want anyone to think I was somehow bragging about it). On 4g you can get close, but I’d probably describe that as “ego dissolution”! I had that last Friday off a lowish dose of Mazatapec- a very spiritual mushroom - I was having an out of body experience within an hour, and my ego completely dissolved, I just became an observer, but at no point did I feel threatened, or dying in anyway.

I have had a couple of full on ego deaths (and many tens if not hundreds that I’ve managed to resist); on both occasions the mushrooms fully convinced me that this time, this place, Yep it had gone wrong, I was dying, and then I was dead. My body did not exist, the room I was in did not exist. The first time 33 years ago off liberty caps, I was energy in the dark void of wherever, for thousands of lonely years. The second time was not so long back, when tripping alone, I accepted the trip and went with the flow. I saw and experienced the nicer side of death, and yes that trip was pretty special for all the right reasons.....

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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26541210 - 03/17/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for the response! Guess I know what I’m doing for the rest of the night👍🏽


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26541421 - 03/17/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Seriously, I started my first grow about 3 weeks ago, gathering supplies, sterilizing jars, and such. I inoculated 10 days ago. By the time I purchased two big Sterilite tubs (for SAB and SGFC), 2 cubic feet of Perlite, a big bag of BRF and Vermiculite, Bunsen Burner, 91% alcohols, gloves, Tyvek Sleeves, microspore tape, 24 half-pint mason jars, a couple of cheap thermometers, 6500K CFL lights, Hydrometer, two big steamers for sterilizing in my stock pots, MS syringes, and a few other odds and ends, I think I am into this for about $175.00 so far.
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Maybe you just didn't think about it enough.

Simple items for a big grow setup.

Box of gloves              $5
Big tub for glove box      $10
2 smaller tubs for grows    $10
Big bag of grain            $10
Petri dishes                $10
Malt agar                  $5
Scalpels                    $5
Photographers lights        $20
Cheap pillow                $5
Block of coir              $5

$85 all up for complete ready to grow setup.

Use big jars from olives or sauces you collect, bleach from under the laundry sink, pressure cooker from your kitchen if you have but if not buy one from a thrift store, get a print free from here. No burners, thermometers, hygrometers, tyvec sleeves, syringes, alcohol, micropore tape, mason jars, thermometers, etc, etc required.

I know how you feel though. I did exactly the same thing as you when I started, I've got all that stuff sat in a box in the shed.  :lol:


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: Northerner]
    #26541956 - 03/18/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Me too dude lol. I could have saved myself a small fortune if I’d first tried to grow using BOD’s Easy AF Unmodified Tub Tek - doesn’t even need holes in the monotub, nor misting and fanning. Just spawn to coir and go 👍🏻

Now I’ve discovered frozen fresh tea lasts indefinitely, I am investing heavily in ice cube trays though 🤓


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: Northerner]
    #26542072 - 03/18/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Maybe you just didn't think about it enough.






I think you missed my point and what I was specifically responding to. I am a 100% n00b with growing mushrooms, and as such, was in no way suggesting that the tek I chose was the best for yield or for lowering costs. I chose Pf Tek because I wanted a way to do this that was n00b friendly, as simple as humanly possible for my first grow(s), and the videos by RogerRabbit just made it all so user friendly.

The point I think you may have missed was that I was responding to what abuzzr was asserting when he called one or two people closed-minded because they were saying that growing is much less expensive than buying. He was correctly suggesting that when you factor in the total cost of all equipment for that first grow, it can easily make your shrooms a great deal more expensive than just buying a hit or two off a dealer. My point, in giving a litany of all my costs was NOT to suggest its better than other teks, but to say that even with n00b friendly Pf Tek with 1/2 pint jars and a SGFC, that once you get passed that first grow, it becomes cheaper and cheaper with subsequent grows. I was just trying to support the position of the people like Pandemoon who were suggesting that its better to grow than to buy. :wink:


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26542091 - 03/18/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

When it’s all said and done, though, LSA Woodrose, what is $175 for such a rewarding hobby, that will more than repay for itself, nd give you so much love in your life? That is the only thing (almost only thing lol) that bugs me about online grow vids and posts; the vast majority seem overly focussed on keeping it as cheap as possible, as if actually buying the correct equipment is somehow weak or makes you a lesser mycologists. I mean, 175 just for the satisfaction of being able to call yourself an amateur mycologists 🤓

I’m with you brother, and yes I too have spent a fortune over the years. Got everything I need these days, including spore prints, agar, and liquid cultures 👊🏻

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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26542858 - 03/18/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I've spent a lot more than that to get where I am today, but taken altogether it's one of the best investments going every time I fruit shit.

OTOH I've grown maybe 100 kilos of primo fruits over the years (at least!) and if you calculate the cost per trip it's like 50 cents. :laugh2:


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26543016 - 03/18/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

How much stronger is PE than your garden variety wild picked cubes


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26543062 - 03/18/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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When it’s all said and done, though, LSA Woodrose, what is $175 for such a rewarding hobby, that will more than repay for itself, nd give you so much love in your life? That is the only thing (almost only thing lol) that bugs me about online grow vids and posts; the vast majority seem overly focussed on keeping it as cheap as possible, as if actually buying the correct equipment is somehow weak or makes you a lesser mycologists. I mean, 175 just for the satisfaction of being able to call yourself an amateur mycologists 🤓

I’m with you brother, and yes I too have spent a fortune over the years. Got everything I need these days, including spore prints, agar, and liquid cultures 👊🏻

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I totally agree, and this was my point. More than worth spending a couple of hundred dollars to have your base supplies, as one educates themselves. Then future grows within the same tek are a fraction of the price. Basically, as long as I stick with Pf Tek, the only thing I need to buy in the future are more spores, and once in a while a huge bag of Verm and BRF. In fact, if I had it to do over again the only thing I would have done different, in retrospect, is I would have actually spent a little more. Instead of the 8 Quart Verm, I would have bought the 4 Cubic Foot bag. So instead of the $12.00 for 8 quarts, I could have scored 120 quarts for $36.00. 3x more money for almost 14 times more Verm. Instead of the 5 quart BRF for the $14.00 I paid, I could have snagged this 50 pound bag for $32.99.

But, ya live and learn. :smile:


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26543797 - 03/19/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Only point I disagree with, LSA, is your reckoning that you will NEED to buy more spores.

That’s a NO!

Next flush, take these simple steps:

Dampen inside of a fruit juice tumbler glass, after wiping with 70% alcohol;
Pre-fold a small rectangle of tin foil, and wipe it with alcohol 70%;
Slice the cap off a mature mushroom, where the veil has broken and the cap has fully opened;
Place cap spore side down onto the foil;
Put glass over the cap to cover (seal) the foil and the cap;
Leave for 24 hours;
Remove glass and cap;
Voila! You should now have a nice dark spore print. Fold the foil over spore print and seal each edges.
Place in fridge; will remain viable for months. Now research what to do with your spore prints.

So given the above real easy method of taking prints, the only reason you’d ever need to buy spores again are:

1) you want to try a new strain
2) your spore prints are no longer viable
3) the spores result in poor ,mushrooms

Keep at it, bro, as you find methods that work for your setup, you’ll improve and expand.

Good luck
DJ Ed


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26543802 - 03/19/20 01:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, make prints and trade with other shroomerites too. You should only ever need to buy one print. :thumbup:


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26543807 - 03/19/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, make prints and trade with other shroomerites too. You should only ever need to buy one print. :thumbup:



Yeah I’ve heard rumours about this, northerner. So where would I advertised, if say, I wanted to swap a Mazatapec print for say a Transkeis print?

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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26543809 - 03/19/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

In the marketplace, just put up prints for trade and see what comes.

There's freebies and all sorts of stuff going on there all the time.  :awesome:


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: Northerner]
    #26543863 - 03/19/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Props dude, I’ll check it out 👍🏻

I’ll not be trading yet as I’m starting work with agar, so want to get loads of decent Mazatapec going. Should have a second flush in a week or two, so will take loads of prints then and then search for some Transkeis; heard loads of good reports about them, even more preferable to Mazatapec 👍🏻


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26544947 - 03/19/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Make sure to document their growth and throw it on here! I would love to see how those Mazatapec’s turn out.


Edited by OJ777 (03/19/20 03:00 PM)


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Re: Albino Penis Envy - say hello to my little friends [Re: OJ777]
    #26551343 - 03/22/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

absolutely

1g of these APEs was stronger than 3g of some golden teachers i recently had


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