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First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek
#26542299 - 03/18/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello, I don't really know if this is the appropriate place, this is cultivation but I am just getting started, please let me know if I need to move this thread.
These are some Uncle Ben's bags I attempted to noc and let grow for a about 14 days, but my friend who is much more adept than me is telling me they are contammed. I'm looking for your .02 and advice on what my next step should be.
I also really don't know how to use the site and upload pictures, so I hope these come through
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26542301 - 03/18/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The yellowing is probably bacteria, but I’d still spawn them. Should get some fruits
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: feldman114]
#26542354 - 03/18/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you for speed
How can you tell? I personally can't see any yellow. I had noticed when the rice came in the mail that the grains were different colours, but they were all varying shades of brown. On my end, everything looks snow white, I would describe the top as straight cottony looking. The bottom has like pools of white, and I don't want you to think I mean there looks like pools of fluid, just that the growth on the bottom looks like a small circle of white. (where the little clear window is, if you know what those rice pouches look like)
I don't see the discoloration, but my friend said the same, that there were spots or something. Can you point them out for me?
I hope I get some fruits, I have some tiny 4oz jars in the oven. I don't have a PC and all of my pot lids are not all that tight, so I was going to leave the jars in the oven@170°F for at least 90min. I read something about pasteurisation on here, I think it was in BOD's Easy AF tek folder.
Edited by VHalek (03/18/20 09:43 AM)
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26542388 - 03/18/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe this’ll help. It’s the kind of thing you just develop an eye for with time.

But, like I said, it could always be the lighting. If you don’t see the yellow tint in that spot, you’re golden.
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: feldman114]
#26542400 - 03/18/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I see what you mean, I think. Mine isn't quite as wet, and that white looks sharper. However, I think my room is also just yellow. The lights are warm K, not the 6500K, and my paint is that ugly beigey colour from like 20years ago.
Sigghhhh I will see. Thank you for your help
E//Haha, is that a close up of my picture? I guess I just don't even know what I'm looking at. Regardless, I shall see in a week or two
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26546306 - 03/20/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've seen a lot of views in the last day or so, here's an update
I crumbled the rice bag cakes and spawned to some 4oz jellies with brown rice, either ground or whole. I am an impatient person, and maybe not very suited to the hobby, so I didn't wait for my materials to arrive in the mail, so the jars are literally rice and spawn, nothing more. It has been about two days, only one jar looks dead, and that jar has the spawn that missed the jars and fell on my tray. Instead of mixing that dirty spawn with the others, I put all the spawn that missed in one jar. And now that jar is dead, pretty sure, so go figure.
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26546335 - 03/20/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some photos Top one is one of the live jars, Middle is dead one -- you can see the dead chunk Bottom is more live ones


Edited by VHalek (03/20/20 10:28 AM)
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26546362 - 03/20/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Please say you sterilized the rice.
Also, how did you hydrate it? I hear getting rice moisture right is pretty difficult.
Btw, rice is spawn, so what you did is G2G. Also, if grain falls in your SAB, you shouldn’t treat it like sterile spawn anymore.
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: feldman114]
#26546367 - 03/20/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't have a cooker, so I put the jars with rice in the oven @170°F for 90min. Um, idk if you noticed, but I didn't plan very well. I'm also impatient. My next run will be different, swear. I didn't really hydrate the rice, I just put it through the oven. I've been spraying in the air above the jars and fanning, but that's about it
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26546384 - 03/20/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Misting and fanning above your closed jars that are filled with dry rice you baked? Is this a tek from your friend?
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: Dispsiple]
#26546392 - 03/20/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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No offense, but what did you expect then?
You gotta put in the time to get the results.
Unfortunately, you should just toss those jars now. If you had agar I’d tell you to transfer a colonized grain and try to clean it up, but that’s about it.
If you’re impatient, you can always start more jars/varieties/projects. But there’s no way around the reading, man. You gotta read up on this shit if you want to succeed. Start here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: feldman114]
#26546398 - 03/20/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It looks like they’re colonizing still somehow.
Once they’re done you could always soak the spawn then put some coir or verm on top, or mix into a bulk tub.
lol also as said above, no need to mist and fan metal lids.
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: A.k.a]
#26546443 - 03/20/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have some stuff coming in the mail, I was gonna use whatever was colonised and fruit it in a plastic tub, if it fruits.
I have some rice pouches still going, I was going to put those in the coco+verm coming to me and make a monotub. Or something. I don't know.
Yeah, I didn't think the moisture was doing anything, it just sits on the lids. I was worried about the moisture dripping into the jar and bringing contaminants in, like I'm told in China you need to wipe the condensation off your glass before you drink or you will pick up germs, so I've only done it maybe two or three times. I'll probably take your advice and just stop misting. I'll soak them and put them in a tub
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: feldman114]
#26546460 - 03/20/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not gonna toss them, they look good to me. It's all white, no discoloration. If it fails, it fails. The single jar (read, only one jar) that has slowed growth is separated out. I didn't expect much, I expected all of the jars to be black and dead or green and stinky. I have read, quite a bit, but even in school taking biotech/AP bio+chem, I wasn't one to follow lab directions. I always did what I thought made sense to me and took tests pretty well. I don't think I would do jars again, I would listen to my friend and actually follow (or do my best to actually follow) what BOD says to do. I like the way his (his?) stuff sounds.
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26546596 - 03/20/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Misting and fanning is for the surface of the cake or tub.
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: A.k.a]
#26591918 - 04/10/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: VHalek]
#26592092 - 04/10/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is that from the rice? Are you growing on wood?
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: The Fresh Prints]
#26592111 - 04/10/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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congrats on sticking it through and not abandoning the project
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: The Fresh Prints]
#26592929 - 04/11/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That is rice cakes, just rice (too impatient to wait for my materials in mail) and spores. I crumbled them into coco coir+vermiculite, but I don't think I broke up the coco enough. I made the rice cakes by crumbling my Spiderman tek bricks into 4oz jars with whole brown rice. Now I have all my materials, so I think next run will go much smoother.
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Re: First Attempt at Growing, used Spiderman tek [Re: Dorfnob]
#26592931 - 04/11/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, thank you! I just ignored advice to toss my work. If I noticed an issue, I just moved the box/jar out of the way. Even if I knew the jar was a goner, I wanted to wait and watch, see what happens. I have a few jars that went crazy, if anyone wanted to look at those.
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