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Re: Changa [Re: Amanita86]
    #26544488 - 03/19/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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You can buy harmala but it’s really expensive, just get some seeds and do a quick extraction.  It’s really not that hard.  Harmala is needed for it to technically be changa but like I think it was mentioned you can eat the harmalas and then smoke enhanced leaf/vape spice.  Acetone works.

Fairly certain caapi is legal but not needed, the leaf you choose is just the carrier for what you put on it so mint, mullen, blue lilly, all of it works and you can make whatever blend floats your boat.




Thank you amantia.. found you can buy harmala extract on the bay about $12 a gram.. too high? feeling lazy bout extracting :smile:

Might just end up trying some enhanced lead.. read mullein is supposed to be nice to smoke.

P.S. my dmt is like a year and a half old. kept in the fridge and air tight.. probably bad? I still have like 50g of root. i assume it's stable forever pretty much..


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Re: Changa [Re: icetech]
    #26544501 - 03/19/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

$12 a gram?  I thought it was way more than that, I remember it being ridiculously high.  That doesn’t sound bad but say 8oz of seeds are $25 you can get on average 3-7%... I got 6 grams from 3 ounces so 18 grams from 8oz.. ..that’s some pretty loose math there but, it’s whatever is the better deal for you.


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Re: Changa [Re: icetech]
    #26544503 - 03/19/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You’re going to want to make sure the extract you get is freebase if you plan to smoke it.  It should be offered as freebase or hcl.  If you can only find hcl you can convert it but at that point you might as well just do an extraction.


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Re: Changa [Re: Amanita86]
    #26544591 - 03/19/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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You’re going to want to make sure the extract you get is freebase if you plan to smoke it.  It should be offered as freebase or hcl.  If you can only find hcl you can convert it but at that point you might as well just do an extraction.




https://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmine-Harmaline-FB-extract-from-Peganum-harmala-seed-1g/133071737619?hash=item1efbb19313:g:xugAAOSw3RVc8Meq

Should be right i think :smile: the FB is freebase.. Thanks for the help... dmt is scary no idea why i'm backed off so bad after trying a few times.

I think when i read that you can vomit and die.. and i trip alone it turned me off a little.. thus wanting to ease in.


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Re: Changa [Re: icetech]
    #26544603 - 03/19/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That looks to be it.  I’ve heard of people ralphing but I’m not too sure how common it is.  I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone dieing from it though.  That seems a little extreme.  It wouldn’t surprise me though to find out someone figured out how to die though, humans are wacky like that.

Take it a few times alone and see how you react to it with an allergy test.


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Re: Changa [Re: Amanita86]
    #26544609 - 03/19/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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That looks to be it.  I’ve heard of people ralphing but I’m not too sure how common it is.  I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone dieing from it though.  That seems a little extreme.  It wouldn’t surprise me though to find out someone figured out how to die though, humans are wacky like that.

Take it a few times alone and see how you react to it with an allergy test.




Will do.. Wanted to make sure it's the right thing... so in your opinion.. what leaf to get for smooth smoke? and and particular brand of acetone?

P.S. sorry OP about the hijack.. but rather learn from people that actually know how to do shit than getting hosed on reddit or something :smile:


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Re: Changa [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #26544614 - 03/19/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If you mix harmalas with pretty much anything but psychedelics there can be interactions, some If them fatal. You should always check every drug and medication you take for contraindications when taking harmalas.

I read about someone disappearing next to a river when smoking DMT years ago and there a few burned stories as well. Should definitely not do it near open water, fire or heights.  :omgz:


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Re: Changa [Re: Northerner]
    #26544619 - 03/19/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If you mix harmalas with pretty much anything but psychedelics there can be interactions, some If them fatal. You should always check every drug and medication you take for contraindications when taking harmalas.

I read about someone disappearing next to a river when smoking DMT years ago and there a few burned stories as well. Should definitely not do it near open water, fire or heights.  :omgz:




Naw.. i trip every weekend usually over 300ug of acid, i try to stay home and safe:) And luckily i'm not on medication other than claritin but will check into it just to be sure.


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Re: Changa [Re: icetech]
    #26544626 - 03/19/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Mint is smooth and likely on your grocery store spice rack.  Look up different mixes people use to get an idea of what’s out there.  Use any acetone that evaporates cleanly... if your hardware store is out or only sells big cans, fingernail polish remover is acetone but make sure what you get is only acetone.  Some polish removers have bitters added to curb chicks from chewing their nails.  Ingredients should be listed on the bottle and if they aren’t don’t use it.


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Re: Changa [Re: Northerner]
    #26544630 - 03/19/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If you mix harmalas with pretty much anything but psychedelics there can be interactions, some If them fatal. You should always check every drug and medication you take for contraindications when taking harmalas.

I read about someone disappearing next to a river when smoking DMT years ago and there a few burned stories as well. Should definitely not do it near open water, fire or heights.  :omgz:



Good point, be careful with MAOI, they come with responsibilities..


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Re: Changa [Re: Amanita86]
    #26544636 - 03/19/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If you mix harmalas with pretty much anything but psychedelics there can be interactions, some If them fatal. You should always check every drug and medication you take for contraindications when taking harmalas.

I read about someone disappearing next to a river when smoking DMT years ago and there a few burned stories as well. Should definitely not do it near open water, fire or heights.  :omgz:



Good point, be careful with MAOI, they come with responsibilities..




haha.. with great trips comes great responsibilities....  I think FDR said that :smile:

Thanks for all the nfo guys..


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Re: Changa [Re: icetech]
    #26560665 - 03/27/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Mullein showed up yesterday.. tried some on it's own and has almost no flavor which is ok.. Harmala should be here today. just need some acetone :smile:

I don't have much dmt left right now but should be enough for a test.


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