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getting dubtubs to fruit, second attempt
    #26541504 - 03/17/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

hey guys need some help. First attempt with dubtubs, always used grow bags in the past and decided to try these. I got my wbs jars fully colonized no problem (slurry works so dang fast!) I have 10 6qt dubtubs and they are fully colonized and have been for nearly 3 weeks. One tub pinned but the mushys were short/stunted and not very healthy looking.. I’m thinking maybe they are to dry possibly?? Maybe I should mist or dunk?  I’ve never “dunked” before.. I’ll post some pics. I’d appreciate any help

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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26541558 - 03/17/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

More pictures.

Spawn ratio?

3 weeks, looks like needs more FAE loosen poly.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: Sockadin]
    #26541566 - 03/17/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ratios

1 qt wbs colonized with GT

500g coco coir
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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: Sockadin]
    #26541569 - 03/17/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

on my tubs I have 4 1.5 inch holes stuffed with poly, micro pore tape around seem


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26541574 - 03/17/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dude just take that tape off. Dubtubs don’t need mods.

That and dryness are definitely the problem, there should be beads on the myc and the top tub should be wet. I’d mist it then mist the top tub and put it back no tape.

Dubbing isn’t really necessary ime the lid works better until you get shrooms that need more room then dub.

Myc looks pretty healthy.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: Sockadin]
    #26541578 - 03/17/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Room temp is 76, live in Hawaii so it’s humid all the time haha. But no condensation build up, not sure if that’s a problem. My only guess is they need water


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26541582 - 03/17/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I just use lids on my shoeboxes and dub tub after, helps create super humid environment for ultra pin formation and is easy to keep surface conditions on point

Do those have lids you could keep on until/ if mushies grow big enough you need a dubtub? Pic below shows kinda what I mean


And this thread has solid info on keeping your surface conditions perfect





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forgot this sorry man!!

Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: A.k.a]
    #26541584 - 03/17/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks I appreciate the response, I will do that. Should I use distilled water?


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26541588 - 03/17/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I have the lids still, they are very loose fitting though. Is that okay?


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26541591 - 03/17/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26541598 - 03/17/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I added a thread you can check out on surface moisture. It's possible dunking at this point could help it, you could try bottom watering (let water run down the side to the bottom of the sub) let it absorb some for a few hours and pour whatever doesn't absorb out


Or just get a good proper spray bottle and mist it nicely and follow the tek I posted above it has great pictures it is the best thread I've found on surface conditions :super:

I actually use a rubbing alcohol mister I bought at a dollar store that I just refilled with water when it was done, it creates a perfect fine mist, i found the traveler spray bottles that come in little traveler kits at the dollar store to provide a decent mist too, or you can go all out and order a fancy one on amazon, I know some people use those


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26541602 - 03/17/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah I have the lids still, they are very loose fitting though. Is that okay?



That's fine.
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You've got some knots forming so that's a good sign.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26541603 - 03/17/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That last picture is knotting, it is almost ready. Yes use the lids until your shrooms are growing and can create their own micro climate and move to the dub.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: Sockadin]
    #26541642 - 03/17/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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okay I took the tape off and misted them good, will check in tomorrow. Fortunately I’ve got the slurry tek down and already have 10 1 quart jars colonized ( if I have to start over


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26542034 - 03/18/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You won’t need to start over it’ll do pretty well I bet.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: A.k.a]
    #26549584 - 03/21/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)





Getting some action now, thanks everyone! Ive read some people don’t even add holes to their dubtubs, saying that since there isn’t truly an air tight seam around the box holes for FAE aren’t needed. Thoughts?


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26549592 - 03/21/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nice.

Yeah no need for holes.

I don’t even dub mine unless the shrooms get tall, even with the lid snapped on there’s plenty of air.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: A.k.a]
    #26549647 - 03/21/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



I’m attempting agar plates for the first time, any here familiar? Dos and don’ts? how long they last where to store em? Yada yada :smile:


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26550890 - 03/22/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

1 -2-5 and toss 3&4.

Also why is your dehydrator upside down?


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: Sockadin]
    #26551394 - 03/22/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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1 -2-5 and toss 3&4.

Also why is your dehydrator upside down?



Not upside down, just took the picture from behind haha


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26551402 - 03/22/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Seems to be dry. A dunk or late casing wouldn’t hurt after it flushes. Seems you have knots just wait it out. You can keep the lid on the main tub until pins are about 1/2 inch in size then dub tub it. I’m wondering if you are losing moisture pre flush.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26551408 - 03/22/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well guys they still aren’t grow quite right :frown:
not sure what I did wrong this was my first dub tub attempt. All the times I used grow bags in the past was so easy and mushrooms grew large. What I’ve managed to get to pop up are no bigger than 2in. There is condensation build up in the dubs which I thought was good. But the substrate has a “tight” look to it or maybe “hard” would be a better word 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️
Thinking maybe I should dunk them?


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26551410 - 03/22/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did you top layer at spawning? I’d say it’s dry. Next round try adding a thin top layer of substrate at spawning.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: eatyualive]
    #26551415 - 03/22/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Seems to be dry. A dunk or late casing wouldn’t hurt after it flushes. Seems you have knots just wait it out. You can keep the lid on the main tub until pins are about 1/2 inch in size then dub tub it. I’m wondering if you are losing moisture pre flush.



Yeah this was my first try and I messed up I think by dubbing right from the start, I know for my next round to use the lids first


Next round is ready 😄


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: eatyualive]
    #26551424 - 03/22/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Did you top layer at spawning? I’d say it’s dry. Next round try adding a thin top layer of substrate at spawning.



Ya I messed that up to, I just mixed all the sub and myc together didn’t add a layer on top :/


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    #26551465 - 03/22/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They look like they’re good just the conditions are off.

You’ll get the hang of it but next time a top layer and lid and you’ll be set.


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    #26558010 - 03/25/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Update, getting lots of pins. They don’t want to grow more than about an inch tho 🤷🏼‍♂️


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26558743 - 03/26/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Man whatever’s going on with the left side of pic 8 needs to be recreated. I’d grab some clones if you have agar.

What kind are these? Look just like my Burma that I can never get to grow normally.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: A.k.a]
    #26560367 - 03/27/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Man whatever’s going on with the left side of pic 8 needs to be recreated. I’d grab some clones if you have agar.

What kind are these? Look just like my Burma that I can never get to grow normally.





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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26575890 - 04/03/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok guys, here is my second attempt.
This time I added a layer of coco coir and Verm to the top.
I just used the lid for these tubs and did not dub them till this post.
I didn’t drill holes in these ones since it’s not really air tight anyway.


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Re: Can’t get my dubtubs to fruit [Re: 808dirtman]
    #26833890 - 07/20/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Any updates ? 🧐
Trying to see if leaving the lid on and adding the top layer was the answer.


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