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OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26552880 - 03/23/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It took them a year and a half to finally realize this???  :flowstone:

Read the OP.  It's clear this was fake news, as qman said.


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26552989 - 03/23/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not familiar with how they came to that conclusion or why their evidence was reclassified. So I couodnt tell you why it took a year and some change to figure that all out. Maybe a questionnfor enlil


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #26553027 - 03/23/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The answer is very easy.  They didn't have sufficient evidence.

Again, please read the OP.  Especially this part:

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New Studies Show Pundits Are Wrong About Russian Social-Media Involvement in US Politics
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Far from being a sophisticated propaganda campaign, it was small, amateurish, and mostly unrelated to the 2016 election.

'The Nation' looked at the data in the report and concluded that "on every significant metric, it is difficult to square the data with the dramatic conclusions that have been drawn."

- Political content was just 11% of the total content attributed to the Internet Research Agency (IRA)
- Only 7% of IRA's Facebook posts mentioned Trump or Clinton by name
- IRA’s Facebook spending between 2015 and 2017 was $73,711; $46,000 of which was spent on Facebook ads before the 2016 election
    (vs $81 million spent on Facebook ads by the Clinton and Trump campaigns)
- Russian-linked accounts spent $4,700 on Google ads

The reports provide more evidence that the Russians were engaging in clickbait capitalism: targeting unique demographics to attract large audiences for commercial purposes.

Based on all of this data, we can draw this picture of Russian social-media activity: It was mostly unrelated to the 2016 election; microscopic in reach, engagement, and spending; and juvenile or absurd in its content.






If you have new or other information, please share!  :popcorn:


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26553694 - 03/23/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Minor point:  they should strike bullet point #2.  The synopsis is strong enough without it and an ad that is meant to nudge people in one direction or another need not mention either of those two names.


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: relic]
    #26553815 - 03/23/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Love the logic here, zero convictions for even one of the Clinton conspiracies yet she's still obviously guilty, one decision saying "they're out of our jurisdiction, and besides it wasn't that bad" is complete exoneration.


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Qave]
    #26553909 - 03/23/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just keep clinging to the hope hes a bad russian asset to avoid being a grown man and admitting your mistake. Youll go far.


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Qave] * 1
    #26554061 - 03/23/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Love the logic here, zero convictions for even one of the Clinton conspiracies yet she's still obviously guilty, one decision saying "they're out of our jurisdiction, and besides it wasn't that bad" is complete exoneration.



Whose logic is that?

Let's focus on the evidence (or lack thereof).


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26554143 - 03/23/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I totally missed the post that laid out that (logic?)  assertion in the whole one page of this thread.


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: relic]
    #26554147 - 03/23/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Was that question to me, or Qave?

If it was to me (as your currect post suggests), it was laid out in the O.P.

But you already agreed with me, so I assume it was a reply fail and was meant for Qave?


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26554239 - 03/24/20 12:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Agreeing (with you, in reference to Qave's post) that I, too, saw nobody make those statements.

ETA: Has anyone here recently written about Hillary being guilty of anything related to any of the popular conspiracy theories about her?  She's old news and, besides, she's boring.


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Re: Russian Election Interference Narrative Falls Apart [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27922231 - 08/28/22 08:20 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I knew this was coming, but a great watch.




I think Jimmy Dore was a little over-the-top in this video. I feel like News Commentators have to be, because it gets views, and that's their shtick, but I don't like the criticisms he made of Bernie. I guess it's good that he can openly criticize his candidate of choice. The other dude clearly makes a more reasonable assessment of the situation, though.

People forget that Bernie is trying to work within the system, to change the system. He's not some armchair pundit. Politics is a dirty business. These sort of purity tests often set their goal posts too far off the field to be meaningful tools.

Edit: Oh shit, Falcon sent me down the rabbit hole this morning, and I end up commenting on a 2 year old post lmao


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