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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak]
#26544920 - 03/19/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: dude, this COVID19 pandemic is JUST STARTING IN AMERICA. We are in the EARLY STAGES. The worst is yet to come. You are being impatient and unreasonable. After this pandemic is over please report back to us the numbers between the flu and COVID19.
Yes sir. I also want you to report the numbers after this is over or at the end of the year.
Will do. I pray that you're right and I'm wrong, but based on the evidence so far it looks like COVID19 will be way worse than the flu.
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I thought coronavirus made you blue, not red.
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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak] 2
#26557807 - 03/25/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Up to 65,000 hoaxes in US now. Bunch of sheeple!
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2020 Flu Season in the US (as of 3/14):
54,000,000 cases 59,000 deaths
Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the US (as of 3/25):
68,203 cases 1,024 deaths
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Oh I get it. Luckily, people smarter than me are able to understand exponential growth, and thankfully we have the data from other countries to support the "mania".
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it's not overblown in new york
it is overblown in texas, but it doesn't matter. a lot better safe than sorry.
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CookieCrumbs
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AroundtheSon said: Oh I get it. Luckily, people smarter than me are able to understand exponential growth, and thankfully we have the data from other countries to support the "mania".
I feel like alot of people are using this term without knowing what it means.
Flu features exponential growth. It's because of how contagious it is. 2 people can infect a larger number of people than 1 and 10 can infect a significantly larger number. That's generally how highly infectious pandemics work. Basically exponential growth ...describes a pandemic.
What's alarming about coronavirus is the type of exponential growth it's exhibiting. How high that growth margin is.
But to OP's point we don't actually know how fast it spread because we had shit testing.
To infectious disease experts that I'm sure know # of confirmed cases =/= new infections the alarming thing is that something must eventually stop exponential growth (that is the cases rising rapidly). With the flu we can count on population immunity. It would quickly infect and kill those susceptible to it.
With CV... we don't know. It might keep going until half of the global population is sick and go several rounds through the global population before there's any reliable immunity. And it might exhibit exponential growth until then. Which ultimately means many more people dead than the flu.
Absolute worst case scenario it would continue to exhibit that until most of us were dead. But that's unlikely.
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html
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That said, scientists have studied seasonal flu for decades. So, despite the danger of it, we know a lot about flu viruses and what to expect each season. In contrast, very little is known about the new coronavirus and the disease it causes, dubbed COVID-19, because it's so new. This means COVID-19 is something of a wild card in terms of how far it will spread and how many deaths it will cause.
It's not spreading faster than the flu, it's not necessarily deadlier than the flu, it's just alot less known than the flu and could be alot deadlier.
The article I linked suggests it actually doesn't spread as well as the common flu. We really have no freaking idea because, again, testing hasn't been great.
But it's important to note that this could have been a flu. Several of the common colds that circulate every year are coronaviruses. Which is good news for us because it means we might actually have some immunity to it, unlike, say... Ebola or something. It might very well be why some people get it, even some people not in the greatest of health, and just get a bit of a cough instead of pneumonia.
So it's also important to note it could have been far worse. In fact experts were quite scared that the last Ebola outbreak would be that super deadly pandemic that's bound to happen sooner or later because viruses and bacteria are constantly evolving... It wasn't. And since we're actually doing something it's unlikely coronavirus will hit with its full potential.
But... we don't know what that is. And we don't know if it's going to stick with us the way H1N1 has and kill half a million people every year even after we develop a vaccine. 
I don't think it's overblown so much as people don't know how to take something seriously without thinking it's potentially world ending.
Or understanding that alot of things are potentially world ending and that an asteroid big enough to wipe us all out at any minute could nail the planet and we probably wouldn't see it coming because telescopes are not trained on every visible part of space.
Pick your poison I guess.
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Yes! I was gonna use the asteroid/quasar reference but you got it covered
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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak]
#26585049 - 04/07/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak]
#26585266 - 04/07/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do u still think the Coronavirus Outbreak of 2020 is overblown?
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If people would stop comparing it to the Spanish flu. Socially the Spanish flu is all we can compare it to but as far as the effect of the virus... Families aren't being left to rot in their homes because social services are so overwhelmed they can't even send dead carts. Which they did do.
Hospitals became so completely overwhelmed the sick were laid on the floor next to the dying so that when that patient died they could toss them into a mass grave and lift the patient from the floor to the still warm bed. So many hospital staff got sick that in many cases patients didn't even get the most basic care, like food and water. most people who died did so within 24hours, sometimes 12 hours. Many wards had patients dying every. Single. Minute. For days. For weeks.
This is not the Spanish flu. It's just the first pandemic to hit us after the invention of antibiotics and vaccines.
Comparing it to one of the worst pandemics in history, something on a scale that is literally unimaginable to us, makes it seem overblown.
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Why is taking such an irrational approach actually still on the table? Why is it that a person can freely state, with no intellectual consequences, that hospitals are overcrowded and my friends are working 24/7 to save lives because of some sort of mass hysteria? Why in the name of anything sensible, with all the data we already have, anyone still compare this to H1N1? 2000 people died in 48 hours of... possibly mass hysteria?
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It definitely seems a little overblown now the worldwide community response has been so huge. One can imagine though if we didn't have the technology and the epidemiological understanding that we do. COVID19 would have been caught by every man, woman and child in society. We would be piling the dead in the streets. Thank the universe for modern food, medicine, technology and communication. It could be so much worse.
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CookieCrumbs said: If people would stop comparing it to the Spanish flu. Socially the Spanish flu is all we can compare it to but as far as the effect of the virus... Families aren't being left to rot in their homes because social services are so overwhelmed they can't even send dead carts. Which they did do.
Hospitals became so completely overwhelmed the sick were laid on the floor next to the dying so that when that patient died they could toss them into a mass grave and lift the patient from the floor to the still warm bed. So many hospital staff got sick that in many cases patients didn't even get the most basic care, like food and water. most people who died did so within 24hours, sometimes 12 hours. Many wards had patients dying every. Single. Minute. For days. For weeks.
This is not the Spanish flu. It's just the first pandemic to hit us after the invention of antibiotics and vaccines.
Comparing it to one of the worst pandemics in history, something on a scale that is literally unimaginable to us, makes it seem overblown.
The 2nd wave during the Spanish Flu mutated and killed everyone.
We are still riding the first wave up.
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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: PumpJackTeX] 1
#26585850 - 04/08/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I mean yeah it's possible the worst is yet to come. That's true of any virus that is very good at replicating itself. It's why that last outbreak of Ebola was so concerning.
But influenza is a very different type of virus. Afaik nothing is faster or better at mutating.
For sure there's reason to be concerned but there's been thousands of pandemics like covid19. There's little to point to it being a Spanish flu.
To Northerners point we live in a much more advanced society. In the early 1900s most people grew up in slums around industrial factories with no environmental standards and with poor nutrition and having already battled numerous illness. Including hook worm and other parasites.
There will undoubtedly be a 2nd wave. We can't count on coronavirus dying down if it's not a seasonal bug like flu. When people get out again it will rise again.
If they don't develop a vaccine or it doesn't die down on it's own it likely will become as regular to us as the common cold. After it infects everyone and kills who it will.
Our tactics are aimed at delay, not victory.
But then this is probably very much like how the common cold started.
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