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InvisibleShroomerInTheRye
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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak] * 3
    #26540895 - 03/17/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They did tho..

From the medicinenet article...
"False negatives comprised just 3% of the patient population in this study. However, failure to detect a small number of cases of the potentially deadly viral infection may have wide-ranging effects for patients and others who may become infected."

I mean, at this point, you're just rejecting facts in the face of facts.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 7
    #26540902 - 03/17/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Leave the man in peace, he just wants to make up his share of alternative facts. He's probably planning to run for president in the future; keep an eye on that boy.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26540908 - 03/17/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If we had a lot of false positives the death rate is much worse


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: koods]
    #26540910 - 03/17/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

US cases went from 3000 to 6000 in less than two days

We are now adding cases faster than anyone except Italy, Iran and Spain


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26540952 - 03/17/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

According to the CDC, we only have 4,226 cases in the USA. The data is updated daily at noon.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: Asante]
    #26540955 - 03/17/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Most people have not made it in the green.





Shroomerites had the advantage of having the superb stickied Corona thread going since January.




Almost looks like the homeland security advisory system with the bush administration.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26540967 - 03/17/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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They did tho..

From the medicinenet article...
"False negatives comprised just 3% of the patient population in this study. However, failure to detect a small number of cases of the potentially deadly viral infection may have wide-ranging effects for patients and others who may become infected."

I mean, at this point, you're just rejecting facts in the face of facts.




I said false positives not false negatives.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.8.2000171?fbclid=IwAR1yaTgICfc15rO6mkI90pBb45j1EnT87KA5p9gcfnixqS%20ciJWsFeQb4j5I

This lab in France has tested over 5000 samples and not one had SARS-CoV-2. They did however find 373 other coronaviruses as well as other respiratory virus that routinely kill people all over the world. 

It's so odd that you get mobbed when you ask for proof. Especially when it comes to something so serious... People are strange...


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak] * 5
    #26540971 - 03/17/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You don't want proof, though...you want confirmation bias.  I mean, just be honest.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #26541016 - 03/17/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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You don't want proof, though...you want confirmation bias.  I mean, just be honest.




No way. The stakes are big. No time for bias especially in healthcare.

As always, follow the data. When the data is muddy ask for clear data. Then make a decision on the data. No bias.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak]
    #26541028 - 03/17/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak] * 2
    #26541032 - 03/17/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It's so odd that you get mobbed when you ask for proof. Especially when it comes to something so serious... People are strange...




Not exactly what happened. You came in claiming that the tests were unreliable and got "mobbed" when you offered very little evidence of your own to support your claim.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26541051 - 03/17/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

According to the CDC, we only have 4,226 cases in the USA. The data is updated daily at noon.




Ignore the stats from the CDC. It’s a shell of a once competent agency.

The US is at 6,194

1500 new cases today

It does appear we are now testing more aggressively


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: koods]
    #26541053 - 03/17/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Where is your information coming from?  The media is lying.  CNN's big fat headline says 100 deaths in the USA, but the CDC says 75. 

I'm not trying to start a fight here, koods...but not trusting the CDC data is a giant mistake that could be fatal.  It's not perfect, but it's what we've got and it's a scholarly source of information.

Please, if you're gonna make a potentially deadly statement, back it up with facts.  We can't fuck around with this virus, but also, the media is sensationalizing the living shit out of this.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #26541058 - 03/17/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder how many people are going to die or be hurt because doctor's are canceling appointments so they don't potentially get hurt by some other thing.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak] * 3
    #26541065 - 03/17/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The current test looks for the virus's RNA in blood serum. As there are 1000s of coronavirus in existence it's possible that some could appear similar during testing. The mass infection rates and high morbidity of this particular strain is a bit concerning.

The sky isn't falling, but there's good reason to be concerned. It is very important not to let fear take over though. When people are scared they act irrationally. The media is feeding off and instilling this fear right now. They are merchants of fear. Do not pay too much attention to them, it'll fuck with your head. But do take it seriously. Protect yourself and your loved ones. This is going to be a very long event so panicking will not help at all. Be mindful, prepare, keep calm, keep living your life.

I know it seems overblown, in some ways it is by the media. They are acting as if half of us are going to fall down dead tomorrow. This is bad because many people will dismiss such hysterics and miss the hidden truth behind it. It is a serious thing. Though not the end of the world as we know it unless we destroy ourselves acting like muppets.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: kikthefreak] * 2
    #26541069 - 03/17/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Better test?




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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: feevers]
    #26541073 - 03/17/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The fear of the virus ap If you have older/immune comprised friends/family the advice is the normal advice...eat right, exercise, meditate, etc.





No, the advice from people who actually know what they're talking about is for everyone to practice social distancing and stay the fuck home for awhile.



yeah what the hell kind of medical proffessional is suggesting that meditation is the solution yo slowing the spread of this?

you have no clue what you're talking about.

its so easy to avoid the spread. its as easy as avoiding people. and doing that will turn this from potentially being like Italy to potentially being like South Korea which means a big difference in mortality.


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #26541079 - 03/17/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Where is your information coming from?  The media is lying.  CNN's big fat headline says 100 deaths in the USA, but the CDC says 75. 

I'm not trying to start a fight here, koods...but not trusting the CDC data is a giant mistake that could be fatal.  It's not perfect, but it's what we've got and it's a scholarly source of information.

Please, if you're gonna make a potentially deadly statement, back it up with facts.  We can't fuck around with this virus, but also, the media is sensationalizing the living shit out of this.




The CDC’s data has been a day or two behjnd for the past two weeks.

After trump got criticized for running so few tests, the CDC removed stats about testing off the site. That tells you all you need to know about the CDC now. The leadership has been hollowed out and replaced with trump sycophants.



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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: koods]
    #26541080 - 03/17/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Please answer my question.  Where is your information coming from?


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Re: Overblown coronavirus??? [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 2
    #26541082 - 03/17/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This is serious business imo. Not because of my own health; but because the nature of the spread. This is not some conspiracy - you think people that make money want stuff closed? hell no? But, they realize a small loss now is better than the real loss (death) of many customers in the future.

q anon and all others are bullshit.
yes, the media has this in constant focus because it will impact all of us in the next two weeks.


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