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Mr.Wizard
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Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? 1
#26539639 - 03/16/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's funny how you don't know you fucked up for 2 months sometimes in this hobby.
I have this labeled as RW2, but the caps are not white. I wasn't able to find any pictures or threads with RW and brown caps. I do have 2 other varieties, but I would like to see if I can get it identified without bias. RW1 (also below) did come through normally, so I know the syringe was RW.
Thank you for your time!
RW2:


RW1:
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Mr.Wizard] 1
#26539653 - 03/16/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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RW1 looks like AA+ strain
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: rumfor69]
#26539700 - 03/16/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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guess it might depend on the generation but if it's rustywhyte it will drop brown spores instead of purple so that's one way you can check
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: rumfor69]
#26539876 - 03/17/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: RW1 looks like AA+ strain
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: AtmozFear] 1
#26540111 - 03/17/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It probably is still RW. It's only recently been crossed so it sometimes will still throw traditional looking fruits.
Just don't print those so you don't propagate those genetics.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Mr.Wizard]
#26540129 - 03/17/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I say they's cubes...

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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: coAsTal]
#26540151 - 03/17/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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They have the shape of rw, and somebody else just had a rw print put out all normal color too.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Hobbyist] 1
#26540172 - 03/17/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hobbyist said: It probably is still RW. It's only recently been crossed so it sometimes will still throw traditional looking fruits.
Just don't print those so you don't propagate those genetics.
Or do, but don't call them Rusty Whyte
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Babylon] 2
#26540300 - 03/17/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Except that unless I'm mistaken pasty asked that you don't propagate genetics that don't exhibit the desired traits in the variety.
Also, there's a multitude of cube varieties, why would you propagate random genetics that won't give you consistency in what you get? Why would you even want to? If you did, what would you call them?
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Hobbyist]
#26540336 - 03/17/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don’t know man but those are fucking beautiful at the bottom
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Hobbyist]
#26540595 - 03/17/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hobbyist said: Except that unless I'm mistaken pasty asked that you don't propagate genetics that don't exhibit the desired traits in the variety.
Also, there's a multitude of cube varieties, why would you propagate random genetics that won't give you consistency in what you get? Why would you even want to?
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: bw86] 1
#26540652 - 03/17/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everyone is saying RW1 is AA+ because they don't look like rw, but if you look at the veil it seems to have pretty rusty spores, definitely not purple. Does anyone else see that? Or am I misunderstanding?
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: bw86]
#26540654 - 03/17/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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What if they turn out to be PE potent? What if the yield is 300% BE?
Plenty of reasons to propagate cultures of regular-looking shrooms.
I’m guessing pasty was more concerned with preserving the RW lineage, even in name. If you print those and give them to people who ask for RW, that’s fucked.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: bw86]
#26540672 - 03/17/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you for all the replies!
I printed one, and it is purple spores.
The other two varieties I got spores of were PE6, and B+. I thought it's possible it could be B+, none of my plates of that germ'd.
I still feel very confident that my system for those first few agar dishes didn't produce any mistakes. I would 'noc the plates up one variety at a time, and label everything before I went to the next variety.
With purple spores do we think that RW2 is still RW, just not exhibiting the desired genetics? If so I'll throw these prints away. I did get a print off RW1 that was the proper spore color.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: feldman114]
#26541454 - 03/17/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: What if they turn out to be PE potent? What if the yield is 300% BE?
Plenty of reasons to propagate cultures of regular-looking shrooms.
I’m guessing pasty was more concerned with preserving the RW lineage, even in name. If you print those and give them to people who ask for RW, that’s fucked.
Exactly, they aren't any more random than any other RW, they are just displaying different properties. He could print them and call them randoms, or chaos magic, or whatever he liked. Calling them RW would be wrong, and implying to those he gives them to that they are going to reliably produce anything in particular would too, but plenty of people like randomness and it is entirely possible someone could isolate something reliable from them.
Not saying it would be worth Mr Wizard's time to print them, or distribute them, just saying that not being perfectly true to type doesn't make shrooms worthless.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Babylon]
#26541985 - 03/18/20 03:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: What if they turn out to be PE potent? What if the yield is 300% BE?
Plenty of reasons to propagate cultures of regular-looking shrooms.
I’m guessing pasty was more concerned with preserving the RW lineage, even in name. If you print those and give them to people who ask for RW, that’s fucked.
If they are, that's great, but the spores from the shrooms won't be the same potency or BE of the parents. It seems perhaps you don't know how these things work..
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feldman114 said: What if they turn out to be PE potent? What if the yield is 300% BE?
Plenty of reasons to propagate cultures of regular-looking shrooms.
I’m guessing pasty was more concerned with preserving the RW lineage, even in name. If you print those and give them to people who ask for RW, that’s fucked.
Exactly, they aren't any more random than any other RW, they are just displaying different properties. He could print them and call them randoms, or chaos magic, or whatever he liked. Calling them RW would be wrong, and implying to those he gives them to that they are going to reliably produce anything in particular would too, but plenty of people like randomness and it is entirely possible someone could isolate something reliable from them.
Not saying it would be worth Mr Wizard's time to print them, or distribute them, just saying that not being perfectly true to type doesn't make shrooms worthless.
It is, but why would someone want to try? They're gonna throw random leucistic and standard color fruits, it's a crapshoot. There are enough standard varieties that someone could isolate something reliable from.
I never said the fruits were worthless...?
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Mr.Wizard said: Thank you for all the replies!
With purple spores do we think that RW2 is still RW, just not exhibiting the desired genetics? If so I'll throw these prints away. I did get a print off RW1 that was the proper spore color.
Sure thing. 
Yeah, that's my opinion.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: Hobbyist] 1
#26542162 - 03/18/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yesssss I don’t know how these things work... ...that’s why there are dozens of regular-looking shroom varieties that have been stabilized and propagated via spores?
You said there’s no reason to propagate them unless they look like RW is supposed to. Obviously, there are reasons to propagate them. No need to flip out about it though, I make mistakes all the time too.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: feldman114]
#26543076 - 03/18/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awe man, do a random giveaway, I would gladly take em seems a waste to toss perfectly good prints. Any spores at all are hard to come by for some, let alone reliable genetics Besides, random leuciatics sounds fun.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: RichardCranium]
#26543139 - 03/18/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It’s a thingamajigger or a whatzitahoozle variety.
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Re: Must have mislabeled this one, can anyone tell me which variety it is? [Re: eatyualive]
#26543191 - 03/18/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Print them and label them notRW and send them to me, eats, Richard and anyone else that wants to fuck with NotRustyWhites.
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