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Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.)
#26538396 - 03/16/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is my first harvest. How does my substrate look? Do I leave the little mushrooms like you see? What about the leftover chunks? Cut them out? Any tips?
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26538426 - 03/16/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also, I’ve read some people don’t mist or dunk at all for some time after harvesting. Thoughts on that?
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26538429 - 03/16/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you going to clean the coco coir from the butts of the fruits? I am always anal about that lol.
Personally, for harvesting, I just use a pocket knife/precision cutter and cut the fruits as close to the sub as possible. The cut stems in the tub side bruise blue and then get reclaimed by wispy myc eventually unless they get trichy.
I've been gathering the aborts as well because why not. But I see how people running a very large scale project wouldn't want to spend time harvesting small aborted shrooms. If you're not sure which one is an abort and which one is a live pin, just let them be and the abort will turn darker and generally develop a blue ring around the stem below the cap. Their odd shape also gives them away.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26538439 - 03/16/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would pick them all. Most of the little ones will abort. It has been said that the aborts are more potent than mature ones. Clean off the surface as well as you can and dunk the cake for a second flush. Good work!
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: oldest hippie]
#26538454 - 03/16/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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As far as dunking, I found out recently just how much I was shooting myself in the foot with dunking for a 2nd flush. Just a heavy mist after harvest and atsa wrap. Faster pinning and more pins on the 2nd and 3rd flushes IMO. Helps to keep the nasties at bay as well not having a soggy mass of sub sittting around a cool, dark house.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: jomanda1990]
#26538464 - 03/16/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks guys I’m pretty happy with it. I can’t believe how much you can get from one small tub. What do you mean by clean the surface? I read some people leave some of the chunks and mycelium grows over it.
Ya I read some people just mist it. I wonder why it works better, for some people atleast. The only thing I’m worried about is the chunks left over, but like I said some people let them be.m And yes I’m going to clean the coco off hehe. I feel you about being anal about it. My first harvest so I’m just pumped anyways!!
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26538471 - 03/16/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
alaskappalachian said: As far as dunking, I found out recently just how much I was shooting myself in the foot with dunking for a 2nd flush. Just a heavy mist after harvest and atsa wrap. Faster pinning and more pins on the 2nd and 3rd flushes IMO. Helps to keep the nasties at bay as well not having a soggy mass of sub sittting around a cool, dark house.
Really, what problems have you encountered? I have been doing a second flush dunk for years and never had a problem with it. I don't soak the cake for more than half an hour. I found out about dunking by accident when I took my fruiting chamber to a friend to babysit my grow while I was going out of town, and the cakes fell over into the perlite and soaked in the water for the 30 minutes that it took to get to his house.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: oldest hippie]
#26538538 - 03/16/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dunked for years too. My biggest thing about dunking is that it leaves the sub too wet, and I get 2nd flush pins sooner (and they flush heavier) it would seem when I just give a good spray. Wouldn't have mattered in some other places I lived, but with my indoor temps so low, I have to treat my subs diffferently. That said, the boxes I keep at a friend's house (MUCH more climate controlled) have been reacting well to just misting as well. Quick and easy. No reason to dunk a sub overnight (as I see reccomended in older literature). Mist that bugger and stick the lid back on. Just my 2 cents. You mention cakes. I do dunk cakes for a while when I fruit them as cakes. Almost never fruit whole cakes, but often they benefit from a 6-8hr dunk IME in between flushes. Started taking single cakes and chucking them in old Kimchi and Kraut containers though with a little coir/verm, which get misted in between flushes...
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26538569 - 03/16/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dunking gave me waterlogged flushes too.
I usually soak with the mister after the first flush and then after second flush add enough water to keep the bottom inch of so of the sub submerged for 40-60 mins, drain and spray the surface with the mister again.
Op those little ones are aborts. I usually try to pick them off and usually save them but they start to get pretty gross sometimes during the second flush when they rot.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: A.k.a]
#26538628 - 03/16/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So you think I should pick everything? Also what’s your opinion on some leftover chunks in the sub? I got most of it but don’t want to destroy my sub getting it all. I read some people leave it and it’s fine?
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26538639 - 03/16/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pick everything. As was nentioned, they usually just turn out to be aborts. Harvest it all at one time. I just make tea out of the little peeners from my boxes. There'll be more. The stumps will be covered with myc and will be fine.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: alaskappalachian] 1
#26538647 - 03/16/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok thanks bud, I’ll make sure to always do that. I appreciate your time.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26538974 - 03/16/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah stumps are ok, and usually aborts are too but the only times I’ve seen contams besides trich it seems to start on aborts or stumps where a piece of the stem peeled off when I picked it.
Short smooth cut stumps just dry out but aborts or taller stumps start to turn into slime and seem to be mold magnets.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: A.k.a]
#26539115 - 03/16/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fill it up and float it for a while 4 hrs and drain.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: Sockadin]
#26539512 - 03/16/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I’ve read people having better success doing..
1. Waiting a few days before wetting the substrate
2. Misting instead of dunking.
Thoughts?
I also was told to pick aborts, but what if some of them are genuinely growing? Can I wait a day to see if they grow at all? I don’t want to goof this up.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26539539 - 03/16/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they are growing they are not aborts.
Do what feels right for you. It's all about what works for your situation.
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: Sockadin]
#26539575 - 03/16/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Congrats on that harvest! Curious, what was the weight?
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: woofwoof]
#26539576 - 03/16/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok thanks I’ll see if they’re still growing.
And I didn’t weigh it yet. I should’ve checked the wet weight. I have them in front of a fan now, I harvested a little late so spores got them looking dirty. Here’s a pic
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26539585 - 03/16/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Post harvest technique (Leftover stalks and stuff.) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26539587 - 03/16/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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And I’m excited because I have another that’s very similar harvest weight about read, and 5 more that are going to be pinning any day. Have like 10 agar plates looking great, very cool.
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