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So how did this virus originate?
    #26538231 - 03/16/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I cant decide
Virus origin
You may choose only one


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #26538233 - 03/16/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It was bats actually.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Patlal]
    #26538238 - 03/16/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bat fuckers.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #26538244 - 03/16/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It was bats actually.



Escaped bats, from a secret lab.. :notsureif:


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26538258 - 03/16/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I told my doctor I need more benzos to cope with this outbreak,  she said "its gonna be ok" :datass:


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 2
    #26538271 - 03/16/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Biological weapons are usually pretty stupid because you can't really control who catches the disease. Though maybe things are in control in Wuhan now because they have a cure they aren't releasing to everyone else... :uhoh:


But I do find it the most plausible that it arose naturally.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: psi]
    #26538273 - 03/16/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm pretty sure there is a cure / anti virus


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #26538281 - 03/16/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The cure is my dick


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 2
    #26538353 - 03/16/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The cure is my dick




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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26538357 - 03/16/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I heard it was a bat (or bats) who possibly passed the virus to meat that was at an outdoor market in Wuhan.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 3
    #26538424 - 03/16/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Im going with US Military Bioweapon, released in China, to hide its origin and because China is an enemy of the US.

But that may be too conspiratoral for all yall.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26538441 - 03/16/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Im going with US Military Bioweapon, released in China, to hide its origin and because China is an enemy of the US.






So did it backfire then? Because if we did it then we just collapsed or economy and our brought our entire country to its knees.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Niffla]
    #26538457 - 03/16/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If you ask old people on facebook it's the "Libtards"


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26538460 - 03/16/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There is zero evidence to indicate that the virus was man-made, and there is substantial evidence that it came from animals.

At this point they think that the virus made the jump from animals to humans in mid-late November 2019.

We know the virus likely originated in bats, but there was probably an intermediate host between bats and humans. Pangolins are one possibility.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w

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So far, the closest match to the human coronavirus has been found in a bat in China’s Yunnan province. A study5 published on 3 February found that the bat coronavirus shared 96% of its genetic material with the virus that causes COVID-19. Bats could have passed the virus to humans, but there are key differences between the RBD sites in the two viruses. This suggests that this specific bat coronavirus did not directly infect people, but could have been transmitted it to people through an intermediate host, say researchers.




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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Niffla]
    #26538473 - 03/16/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

No, all part of the devious plan to create Chaos and Disorder. I forgot to note its the secret US military, not the regular one.

Its mostly based on my Gematria research. For example, "Covid Nineteen" has Numerological matches to "Freemasonry", "English Alphabet" and "Hail to the King" (Corona means crown): https://www.gematrix.org/?word=covid+nineteen

Then "Covid Nineteen Coronavirus" matches with "Six Hundred and Sixty Six" (The Devils number. The Elites who instruct the secret Military are Satanic): https://www.gematrix.org/?word=covid+nineteen+coronavirus&save=+Add+It+

The phrase "Coronavirus Outbreak" has the best Gematria matches like "President Donald Trump", "I Will Crash the System", "Your Life was Scripted", "Quentin FBI Development", and "December Twenty Nineteen" (The virus was discovered in Decemeber 2019) among many other phrases: https://www.gematrix.org/?word=covid+nineteen


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 3
    #26538488 - 03/16/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The cure is my dick



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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26538489 - 03/16/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Really? Weird. I got deathly sick back in december....


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26538495 - 03/16/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Shroomopotamus] * 10
    #26538842 - 03/16/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It came from the toilet paper industry. Wake up sheeple



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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #26538878 - 03/16/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

Nice 1 :gethigh:


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 5
    #26538890 - 03/16/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Im going with US Military Bioweapon, released in China, to hide its origin and because China is an enemy of the US.

But that may be too conspiratoral for all yall.



It is because it's wrong and stupid

All of the conspiracy theories are distractions from the truth that the world needs to tell China to get its fucking act together with the meat markets. This shit keeps happening over and over and it's only a matter of time before a bird flu with 60% mortality rates mutates to have human to human transmission


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26538897 - 03/16/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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All of the conspiracy theories are distractions from the truth that the world needs to tell China to get its fucking act together with the meat markets. This shit keeps happening over and over and it's only a matter of time before a bird flu with 60% mortality rates mutates to have human to human transmission





Don't waste brain CPU cycles on conspiracy theories regarding this. This naturally evolved and emergec exactly when and where you would expect this to occur.

COVID-19 is organic, no GMO.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Asante]
    #26538908 - 03/16/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If its chinese made I'm pissed off, they treat animals like shit and eat anything and everything that moves or breethes


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #26538914 - 03/16/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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3Do not eat any detestable thing. 4These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, 5the deer, the gazelle, the roe deer, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope and the mountain sheep. a 6You may eat any animal that has a divided hoof and that chews the cud. 7However, of those that chew the cud or that have a divided hoof you may not eat the camel, the rabbit or the hyrax. Although they chew the cud, they do not have a divided hoof; they are ceremonially unclean for you. 8The pig is also unclean; although it has a divided hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses.

9Of all the creatures living in the water, you may eat any that has fins and scales. 10But anything that does not have fins and scales you may not eat; for you it is unclean.

11You may eat any clean bird. 12But these you may not eat: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, 13the red kite, the black kite, any kind of falcon, 14any kind of raven, 15the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, 16the little owl, the great owl, the white owl, 17the desert owl, the osprey, the cormorant, 18the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat.

19All flying insects are unclean to you; do not eat them. 20But any winged creature that is clean you may eat.




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Pigs and very specific types of winged animals seem to serve as the primary vectors for these illnesses.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26538951 - 03/16/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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morrowasted said:

All of the conspiracy theories are distractions from the truth that the world needs to tell China to get its fucking act together with the meat markets. This shit keeps happening over and over and it's only a matter of time before a bird flu with 60% mortality rates mutates to have human to human transmission





Don't waste brain CPU cycles on conspiracy theories regarding this. This naturally evolved and emergec exactly when and where you would expect this to occur.

COVID-19 is organic, no GMO.



He's not talking about a conspiracy theory, this is the mainstream scientific explanation for what happened. Wet markets put species together that would never be in close contact in the wild.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: psi]
    #26538981 - 03/16/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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psi said:
Quote:

Asante said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:

All of the conspiracy theories are distractions from the truth that the world needs to tell China to get its fucking act together with the meat markets. This shit keeps happening over and over and it's only a matter of time before a bird flu with 60% mortality rates mutates to have human to human transmission





Don't waste brain CPU cycles on conspiracy theories regarding this. This naturally evolved and emergec exactly when and where you would expect this to occur.

COVID-19 is organic, no GMO.



He's not talking about a conspiracy theory, this is the mainstream scientific explanation for what happened. Wet markets put species together that would never be in close contact in the wild.





I was agreeing with him on all counts.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #26538991 - 03/16/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It came from the toilet paper industry. Wake up sheeple






God damn!  It all makes sense now!  So this is where the rabbit hole ends. :joneswtf:


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: mongo lloyd] * 1
    #26538997 - 03/16/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It came from the toilet paper industry. Wake up sheeple






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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Asante]
    #26539018 - 03/16/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Asante said:
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psi said:
Quote:

Asante said:
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morrowasted said:

All of the conspiracy theories are distractions from the truth that the world needs to tell China to get its fucking act together with the meat markets. This shit keeps happening over and over and it's only a matter of time before a bird flu with 60% mortality rates mutates to have human to human transmission





Don't waste brain CPU cycles on conspiracy theories regarding this. This naturally evolved and emergec exactly when and where you would expect this to occur.

COVID-19 is organic, no GMO.



He's not talking about a conspiracy theory, this is the mainstream scientific explanation for what happened. Wet markets put species together that would never be in close contact in the wild.





I was agreeing with him on all counts.



Oh, it sounded like you were telling him not to waste brain CPU cycles on conspiracy theories.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: psi]
    #26539050 - 03/16/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

DoorDash created it so you would be forced to order food through them.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #26539635 - 03/16/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Pretty obvious this isn’t man made, it’s just a bad flu that has potential to kill the elderly, and isn’t China losing money by shipments of products not being sent to America?


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26540012 - 03/17/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Patlal said:
It was bats actually.



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Asante said:
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morrowasted said:

All of the conspiracy theories are distractions from the truth that the world needs to tell China to get its fucking act together with the meat markets. This shit keeps happening over and over and it's only a matter of time before a bird flu with 60% mortality rates mutates to have human to human transmission





Don't waste brain CPU cycles on conspiracy theories regarding this. This naturally evolved and emergec exactly when and where you would expect this to occur.

COVID-19 is organic, no GMO.




Did they ever prove whether it came from pandas?
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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26540048 - 03/17/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Why isn't "American bioweapon" one of the choices?  If China was making a bioweapon they wouldn't release it on themselves first, and Trump was trying to get exclusive rights to the cure, so nobody else could have it.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Babylon]
    #26540069 - 03/17/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They didn't release it, I said it escaped


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26540072 - 03/17/20 06:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

OK, the question still stands, why not consider the possibility it was an American bioweapon?  An American soldier visited Wuhan shortly before the outbreak began...


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Babylon]
    #26540079 - 03/17/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There are roughly 2 people in this thread:

-people who point the finger in blame at government

-people who will receive an additional bag of 22lbs red lentils in the mail today :stirthepot:


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Asante]
    #26540085 - 03/17/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Darnit.  I like lentils too...


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Babylon]
    #26540091 - 03/17/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You're on the www, where plenty of capacity webstores have no problem whatsoever with empty storeshelves. The lentils are from a farmers collective. Cheaper than in the supermarket AND no postage cost for a 10kg quantity.

They sell right from the silo, 2019 harvest


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    #26542106 - 03/18/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Evidence continues to mount against the bioweapon conspiracy theories.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

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It is improbable that SARS-CoV-2 emerged through laboratory manipulation of a related SARS-CoV-like coronavirus. As noted above, the RBD of SARS-CoV-2 is optimized for binding to human ACE2 with an efficient solution different from those previously predicted7,11. Furthermore, if genetic manipulation had been performed, one of the several reverse-genetic systems available for betacoronaviruses would probably have been used19. However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone20. Instead, we propose two scenarios that can plausibly explain the origin of SARS-CoV-2: (i) natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer; and (ii) natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer. We also discuss whether selection during passage could have given rise to SARS-CoV-2.




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    #26542120 - 03/18/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Evidence continues to mount against the bioweapon conspiracy theories.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

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It is improbable that SARS-CoV-2 emerged through laboratory manipulation of a related SARS-CoV-like coronavirus. As noted above, the RBD of SARS-CoV-2 is optimized for binding to human ACE2 with an efficient solution different from those previously predicted7,11. Furthermore, if genetic manipulation had been performed, one of the several reverse-genetic systems available for betacoronaviruses would probably have been used19. However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone20. Instead, we propose two scenarios that can plausibly explain the origin of SARS-CoV-2: (i) natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer; and (ii) natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer. We also discuss whether selection during passage could have given rise to SARS-CoV-2.








There is your god damn evidence!


Just kidding

This is strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.


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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #26581922 - 04/06/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It came from the toilet paper industry. Wake up sheeple






Latest developments:


(And I kid you not that I saved this photograph from a conspiracy Qanon Facebook group where I go from time to time for a good laugh. Somebody used it as an argument against 5G and it got some Facebook likes. You can get away with almost anything there... THE shithole of the internet.)


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    #26581944 - 04/06/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Simply more of a chance that it came from a rundown SARS lab hundreds of feet away, than a pangolin. There was virtually no oversight and safety and many articles are coming out saying that it was probably the lab.

This was an act of war. They killed everyone who tried to blow the whistle.


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Wet markets in wuhan probably bats in specific


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    #26581956 - 04/06/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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    #26581975 - 04/06/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

https://www.nature.com/news/polopoly_fs/1.21487!/menu/main/topColumns/topLeftColumn/pdf/nature.2017.21487.pdf?origin=ppub

Occums razor. It was the chinese government :cookiemonster:

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Many staff from the Wuhan lab have been training at a BSL-4 lab in Lyon, which some scientists find reassuring. And the facility has already carried out a test-run using a low-risk virus. But worries surround the Chinese lab, too. The SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times, notes Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Tim Trevan, founder of CHROME Biosafety and Biosecurity Consulting in Damascus, Maryland, says that an open cul-ture is important to keeping BSL-4 labs safe, and he questions how easy this will be in China, where society emphasizes hierarchy. “Diversity of viewpoint, flat structures where everyone feels free to speak up and openness of information are important,” he says.Yuan says that he has worked to address this issue with staff. “We tell them the most impor-tant thing is that they report what they have or haven’t done,” he says. And the lab’s inter-national collaborations will increase openness. “Transparency is the basis of the lab,” he adds.The plan to expand into a network height-ens such concerns. One BSL-4 lab in Harbin is already awaiting accreditation; the next two are expected to be in Beijing and Kunming, the latter focused on using monkey models to study disease. Lina says that China’s size justifies this scale, and that the opportunity to com-bine BSL-4 research with an abundance of research monkeys — Chinese researchers face less red tape than those in the West when it comes to research on primates — could be powerful. “If you want to test vaccines or antivirals, you need a non-human primate model,” says Lina.But Ebright is not convinced of the need for more than one BSL-4 lab in mainland China. He suspects that the expansion there is a reaction to the networks in the United States and Europe, which he says are also unwarranted. He adds that governments will assume that such excess capacity is for the potential development of bioweapons. “These facilities are inherently dual use,” he says. The prospect of ramping up opportunities to inject monkeys with pathogens also worries, rather than excites, him: “They can run, they can scratch, they can bite.”Trevan says China’s investment in a BSL-4 lab may, above all, be a way to prove to the world that the nation is competitive. “It is a big status symbol in biology,” he says, “whether it’s a need or not.




They were handling BSL-4 pathogens and using BSL-2 measures, as per recent accounts. Though official versions cant be trusted. And malice is usually cloaked in stupidity.


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