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I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. (Edit: Now completed!) * 2
    #26535175 - 03/14/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I know some people are curious--
And by water fast, this is filtered water through a British Berkey water filter.
I allow my usual one cup of coffee in the morning (black, as always) which is said to be generally fasting-compatible.

DISCLAIMER: I'm obviously not a doctor, religious zealot, or hardcore purist about fasting, so kindly don't bust my balls for taking supplements or coffee during the fast-- I've read enough to know over the years that what I do generally doesn't interfere with or interrupt the goals of mass autophagy, metabolic/hormonal repair and balance, or gastrointestinal re-alignment that you want to take place during a 5-day.
Also important to mention is that I am a routine intermittent faster by birth-- I often only eat once a day, without thinking much about it-- so if you're a 3-squares kind of person it will probably be a different experience for you to cold-..erm...turkey.
It's really urgent to understand that you should not do this if you're under any kind of stress or physical workload-- I'm off from work, and have the luxury of the time to be chill at home and relax for this period, including the 2 days of "re-feeding" to follow the fast. If you try and maintain a regular routine you can make yourself feel like shit, and do as much harm as good. So don't do that.

Days one and two I have glasses of Bentonite clay powder and Modified Citrus Pectin throughout the day (always morning and evening) to help bind toxins released as my gut flora dies off and undigested food gets pushed out.
I tend to go a little heavy on the Vitamin C the first day knowing it will give you the runs, as this flushes out the gut quite well of a lot of remaining food from the day prior (and build-up) and I'm drinking a lot of water and electrolytes to compensate.
I usually feel fine during both days and don't crave food until the second night if that-- but the other day I took Aleve to address a nasty headache the second morning (I very rarely take painkillers).
I allow that this could have been due to not having my coffee until ~11AM the second day, so it may have just been a caffeine thing.

In between the binders (at least 1.5 hours separated so as not to interfere with the binding effects of the above) I also add Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) to my regular water in small amounts all day, and either a Magnesium Glycinate powder or a salt/electrolyte powder (both have negligible caloric load)

Beginning day 3 I also introduce a liver detox herbal (2 capsules), and a kidney detox herbal (1 capsule), each taken once a day with a large quantity of water (the ones containing the C and salts/minerals)

Day 3 is a very weak day physically-- I'm laying down most of the time, and I feel generally irritable emotionally. I also feel fuzzy-headed, and wouldn't want to be in a public area or have to leave the house if possible. I do think about food a lot, but it's still manageable and I don't break because I'm a fucking adult.:headbanger:
For the record, many people end the fast after day 3, because you have achieved a lot of the basic goals by then-- so if you have a Mon-Fri job, you can fast all day Friday at work (with vitamin support) and the weekend, and you'll just have to be prepared for a sluggish start to Monday with plenty of green juices and soup/broth (you never break a fast with solid food-- look up re-feeding to learn more)

So here we are on day 4, and I'm doing very well-- a lot better than last year's fast. That time I had such terrible joint and muscle pain on days 3 and 4 it was a burden to go from the bed to the restroom-- so I'm pleased. Inflammation and body pain like that happens sometimes as you purge out toxic loads, and as your body attacks damaged tissues with the artillery it's always forced to use for food processing. It's healthy and normal-- so don't be afraid if it happens to you. Read up on it and you'll learn more than I'll discuss here. I was also taking an anti-fungal supplement (candida) which was likely a large part of my toxin purge that time around. I'm abstaining from that this time.
Anyway, I feel mentally clear, and though I'm not really sleeping as fully as I'd prefer at night, I understand that it's part of the adjustment/reformat that happens. I'm also so low-key all day I'm not really using any energy to be tired at day's end. Normal. Still physically tired, but not like yesterday.

I made time for this fast so I don't mind it much, and I'm in a generally good mood all-around. Physically I feel no hunger or longing for food-- though I do think on occasion about fast's-end and a fucking gargantuan cheeseburger with greasy fries that will find it's way into my life sometime next week.

If you want a page that explains the science better than me, here's the first good articles I found listed on Duck Duck Go search engine that kind of explain the ins and outs of it-- I didn't feel like picking one more in-depth, and I don't specifically endorse any of the individual people referenced on that article, but the gist of the fasting methodology and biological processes written about in that article are accurate in my experience.


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: coAsTal]
    #26535234 - 03/14/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I told people im fasting for lent, now I cant eat, my last meal was on feb 25th at 8pm, I drink one water with salt and potassium chloride a day, a black coffee in the morning, and I dose kratom 6 times a day, ive lost 15 pounds in 18 days, if I get dehydrated my blood pressure drops like a rock, I find it a constant struggle to keep hydrated so I dont black out when I stand up, I drink so much water I get up 3 or 4 times to pee every night, and I find it annoying as hell


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: gopher]
    #26535244 - 03/14/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Holy shit!


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: coAsTal]
    #26535249 - 03/14/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

and the stores probably dont even have the stuff I need to make chicken stock right now, bad timing for a fast, but I have 4 cups of stock frozen in my freezer from the last time I made stock, maybe thats enough, id like to make a whole pot though


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: gopher]
    #26535265 - 03/14/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, that's wildly over and above anything I've ever tried. Just... wow man.
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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #26535270 - 03/14/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

me too, I was just doing 3 day fasts before


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: gopher] * 1
    #26535390 - 03/14/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I love fasting. I really have to plan mine though, I alternate between sitting glued to a computer screen and walking a lot(like 5-7 miles) each day at the moment at w0rk. No real labor or anything, and I have never done more than 4 days(that's with chicken and veggie broth too, so some purists might not consider it real..I do though, because it was never enough to break autophagy). I have low blood pressure as is though, and I've had some embarrassing non-fasting-related vasovagal fainting episodes as is, so I err on the side of caution.



It makes my skin look amazing, and it makes me feel awesome too. I have to get back into it - just once a month, sometimes even broken up into 2x 2 day fasts, is more than enough for me to feel the benefits.


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26535408 - 03/14/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Great list of things that interrupt autophagy-- your broth may or may not have depending on caloric/metabolic effect, but unless it's labeled, it's hard to say.


Even if it did, you're still gaining many of the primary benefits of fasting so your feeling great is all the proof that you're benefiting that anyone could hope for :smile:


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #26536828 - 03/15/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for sharing coastal!....

I've been seriously considering doing a fast sometime in the near future (for my first time).



Do you do anything in particular leading up to the fast, or do you just continue to eat/drink as you usually do?

And same in regards to breaking the fast, do you end the fast with any food/drink in particular or do you just stuff your face with what ever is on your mind lol?




Though I haven't done much research into fasting yet...the approach I've had in my mind is somewhat similar to yours, I just don't have a specific regimen in place yet. Even before reading this thread I was planning on using bentonite clay to help bind/pull/flush out nasties built up in the body, and something like milk thistle which is great for the liver. The clay and milk thistle are two things I definitely want to incorporate into the fast.

I was also thinking I'd approach the fast/the day before with simple foods...Several oranges (I already eat a lot of oranges every day) and something simple like eggs in a broth with noodles.....And ending the fast with something similar, as well as something that is fermented/probiotic.



I typically only have one meal a day as it is, I only eat one meal during the evening. I usually go from 9pm at night to 1pm the next day with out eating. So I'm somewhat used to not eating frequently through out a 24 hour period.

I do have relatively low blood pressure though, and I can become very shaky & light headed and faint easily when my blood sugar/blood pressure gets too low...So I'm curious how my body/system will manage with multiple days of no sugar/nutrition..?...


There are some other points and questions I have, but kinda in a bit of a hurry atm...mostly just posting to remember this thread for later.





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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: openmind]
    #26536835 - 03/15/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I had a whoosh in the middle of the night, I was 180.2lbs yesterday and I was 177.4lbs today :cool:


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: gopher]
    #26536886 - 03/15/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Toxins? Seriously?


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26537075 - 03/15/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Would you ever consider eating a pound of Reeses within a single day?


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #26537195 - 03/15/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Would you ever consider eating a pound of Reeses within a single day?




Not sure what that has to do with this, but it was hard to take the OP seriously after the word "toxins".


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26537273 - 03/15/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I just ate 297 grams of Resses

Wondering if that sounded good to him is all.


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: PumpJackTeX] * 1
    #26537480 - 03/15/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

openmind, I didn't do anything special ahead of this one-- in fact in the two days leading up to the fast I ate way more than I usually do.
Ending the fast is a different story-- this afternoon when I broke I started with clear (chicken) bone broth, about a cups worth, and then a few hours later I had some cottage cheese. Then at the end of the night another (beef) broth. It was all heavenly.

Reintroducing food is definitely one of the most important elements of fasting-- it should be done carefully and slowly-- they say you should divide the total fast days by 2 and that number is your ideal length of "re-feeding" where you slowly reintroduce food into your system.

I did a 5 day, so today and tomorrow will be light quantities of non-solid food. I technically was a few hours shy of my 5-day mark, but I'm not too anal about that part. I last ate Tuesday evening and had my broth Sunday mid-afternoon. So I expect to start eating regular solid food starting Tuesday.

Slowly introducing nutrients in liquid form allows your metabolism to reintegrate the food processing better than just diving into a pizza would. Also avoid sugar. There's a lot of good writing out there on it, and it's very easy to do, although I admit I was lusting over the idea of all sorts of cheesecake ice cream, potato chips, and cheeseburgers. All things in time and moderation my friends.

Also, your blood pressure would not be harmed by a fast at all-- especially as you say you already eat light as it is-- if anything, it's likely you will enjoy the results. My liver cleanse supplements contain milk thistle, and several other symbiotic aids to liver health. You can start doing that before your fast and it would probably help you-- why not clean the filter immediately so the fasting is handled more effectively?

Good luck with it-- I felt amazing this morning when I woke up-- very energetic and clear headed-- no question I successfully switched over to ketones for energy and was running on internal fuel only. I absolutely could have maintained this fast-- but I have to contain the process to the time window of my off days, so I had to end it today.

Haha Thanatos10, it's hard to take you seriously by your comments brother-- there's plenty of information out there for you to see what the conversation in this thread is about--that you can't be bothered reflects on you, not us.
You just need to educate yourself a little more before posting nonsense. It's not clear why you even flamed the thread in the first place. Maybe you just like to sling shit to inflate your post count? :smile:


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: coAsTal]
    #26537515 - 03/15/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I know that as soon as you mention anything like a detox or even toxins means there isn’t any science to it. The effect of this fast is (quite literally) all in your head.


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26537561 - 03/15/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

LOL, you really are an idiot-- get the fuck out of this thread, troll


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: coAsTal]
    #26537745 - 03/16/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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LOL, you really are an idiot-- get the fuck out of this thread, troll




Yeah I'm really not, and the site you linked is dubious to say the least. The simple fact is that such detoxing routines don't amount to anything. You know it's sketchy when at the top it tells you none of this information is verified by the FDA. Also just because he pulled a couple articles from PubMed doesn't really mean much, I mean they still have the study that suggest Vaccines cause autism so quality control doesn't account for much.

Like I said, it's just in your head. Human brain is surprising like that.


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26537932 - 03/16/20 05:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

toxins are stored in your fat, when you fast your body eats the fat, and you reintroduce the toxins to your system where you then piss them out


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Re: I'm on day 4 of a 5 day water fast. AMA [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26538005 - 03/16/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah I'm really not, and the site you linked is dubious to say the least. The simple fact is that such detoxing routines don't amount to anything. You know it's sketchy when at the top it tells you none of this information is verified by the FDA. Also just because he pulled a couple articles from PubMed doesn't really mean much, I mean they still have the study that suggest Vaccines cause autism so quality control doesn't account for much.

Like I said, it's just in your head. Human brain is surprising like that.





You're embarrassing yourself-- and what's weird is that you still haven't figured out that this biology was taught to you in 7th grade. You're denying common sense.
You're the guy that just posts to ruin thread conversations. I'm putting you on ignore so I will not see any of your pig-ignorance going forward. You should be ashamed of yourself kid-- it's not a good look.

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