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OfflineYabbadabba411
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Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW
    #26537776 - 03/16/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Habitat:
Where does it grow? Growing straight from the ground in damp conditions near pine trees and eucalyptus.

Cap: in pic

Stem: in pic


Bruising: seems to be on stem

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom: strong mushroom smell.

Hey guys,

I found these near lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) and was wondering on the species. Information on edibility and whether it's psychoactive would be Great!

Thanks!



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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26537862 - 03/16/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Some look like panaeoulous
To me.
But wait for an expert.


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: ft116]
    #26538738 - 03/16/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I was thinking cyanescens although will wait for an expert πŸ‘

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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26538742 - 03/16/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think the nipple on top resembles it


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26538926 - 03/16/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

More photos of stem and under cap



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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26539041 - 03/16/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Usually they don’t have a nipple
Apart from liberty caps
And a few others.
(Experts correct me if
I’m wrong)


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: ft116]
    #26539084 - 03/16/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh ok cool. Maybe cinctulus? From the looks some have a nipple. Will wait though. Thanks again 😊


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26539351 - 03/16/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like a decent candidate for panaeolus cinctulus to me. Could be something different given your geographical location


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26539366 - 03/16/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm in Australia, NSW. I have read they are found here. I used one of the apps and it identified it as that as well. First ones I have found!!! There were heaps!!!
5th hunt so far πŸ‘


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26539857 - 03/17/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Not pan cyans unless they bruise blue, possibly pan cinc, but more than likely inactives.


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: tyggriffic]
    #26539861 - 03/17/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Not pan cyans unless they bruise blue, possibly pan cinc, but more than likely inactives.




How can you tell they are inactive? I thought the pan cinc doesn't really turn blue and most specimens are active. That's what I've read anyways lol


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26539865 - 03/17/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

thats panealous cinctulus. cant expand last two pics those might be different. take spore prints

pan cincts will rarely bruise blue just barely on the bottom of stipe but i usually find that twisted reddish stipe to be a better identifying characteristic. youll get it


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26539920 - 03/17/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Is this ok for a spore print?



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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26540021 - 03/17/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

looks black to me.

what kind of substrate it was growing in?


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26540914 - 03/17/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just in the grass in very damp conditions. Nice lawn


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26541202 - 03/17/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't say it wasn't pan cinc, said it didn't look like it to me. No not all pans are active i do not know where you have heard that. lol. And was it growing in lawn or pine and eucalypt, you've now said both? Makes a big difference to help ID.


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: tyggriffic]
    #26541228 - 03/17/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I didn't say it wasn't pan cinc, said it didn't look like it to me. No not all pans are active i do not know where you have heard that. lol. And was it growing in lawn or pine and eucalypt, you've now said both? Makes a big difference to help ID.




Lol! I'll try to find the link although I trust you guys much more!
No I wrote, Growing straight from the ground in damp conditions near pine trees and eucalyptus. Then I though you probably need the information about the grass.
Lol, I thought you needed technology for a spore print hence why I didn't provide one lol. Learning a lot everyday!
Thanks everyone for your help 😊


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26541759 - 03/17/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A LOT of pan species leave black spore prints, do not rely on that for ID. And yes, direct substrate is needed for correct ID's. Pan. cinc grow in straw, manure, or well-fertilised lawns.
There are still pan cyans around the area, you would be better off concentrating on them until you get more experience with ID'ing other species that are more difficult. Pan cinc are also rather weak generally.


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: tyggriffic]
    #26541775 - 03/17/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh for sure. I thought that's why the cinc would be good for a slight trip and nothing too intense.



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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: Yabbadabba411]
    #26541787 - 03/17/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Again, a lot of pan species leave black spore prints. I'm not saying it's not p. cinc. but I'm just saying there are a lot of similar species and traits among the pan sp. I have a pan papilionaceous print here that looks identical to what you have posted, and both it and pan ant. also leave the same black sporeprint.


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: tyggriffic]
    #26541796 - 03/17/20 10:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Again, a lot of pan species leave black spore prints. I'm not saying it's not p. cinc. but I'm just saying there are a lot of similar species and traits among the pan sp. I have a pan papilionaceous print here that looks identical to what you have posted, and both it and pan ant. also leave the same black sporeprint.




Ahhh...ok. I'm just glad they aren't lethal so it won't hurt to try.
Can you please post the pic of the spores?


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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: ft116]
    #26541908 - 03/18/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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More photos of stem and under cap






these are what i would call classic lawn dwelling pan cinctulus. there may be a handful of mildly active pans hiding under that name. twisted white striated fibrous stem turning darkish red with handling. the cap color and texture is spot on. gills too.


liberty caps are psilocybe species. most psilocybes i can think of have nipples. i knew this chick
nipples are great very greatful
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Usually they don’t have a nipple
Apart from liberty caps
And a few others.
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I’m wrong)




pans dont have nipples usually
liberty caps are not in genus panaleous they are psilicybe semiclanceata i don't even try to spell the names right anymore fuckit

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Re: Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle) NSW [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26541921 - 03/18/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome as!
Thanks for all the info 😊
You are a great help


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