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elJefeLoco
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What did I do wrong?
#26536260 - 03/15/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just had my first flush. It went well, much better than I imagined. A couple of days ago, I submerged the block for 4+ hours to get another flush and then....

Whats likely to have caused this so late in the game? I thought I'd outran contamination issues when I got my dub tub fully colonized.
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: elJefeLoco]
#26536266 - 03/15/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Once a sub is colonized you’re usually safe until after a flush then it’s vulnerable again.
Probably the spawn. As I’ve gotten better at keeping good conditions I’ve noticed even with good spawn the tubs seem more likely to contam after a really big first flush. It’s like the myc put all its energy into making tons of shrooms and is too beat to defend itself.
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: A.k.a]
#26536322 - 03/15/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Aaaahh, that makes sense. Do you know why is it vulnerable again?
The contamination seemed to be concentrated around parts of the sub from which fruit bodies were harvested. Which I suppose is a bit of a duh!
BTW Really big first flushes are not a problem I've had yet
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: elJefeLoco]
#26536452 - 03/15/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've never dunked a tub cause they easily get contaminated from it.
My tubs get 3-4 flushes with a set it and forget it attitude. They
give me about 4.5 dried zips on average then I toss them as they're
dried, shriveled, and dying.
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536466 - 03/15/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: I've never dunked a tub cause they easily get contaminated from it.
My tubs get 3-4 flushes with a set it and forget it attitude. They
give me about 4.5 dried zips on average then I toss them as they're
dried, shriveled, and dying.
No rehydrating? I thought it was required, as each flush drew on the reserves, no?
Are you spraying/misting a lot?
I decided to dunk when I saw how much the the sub had shrunk. Do you just not worry about the "shrinkage" then?
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: elJefeLoco]
#26536475 - 03/15/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't mist or fan my tubs at all. The shrinkage helps to stimulate
pinning. My tubs always turn ourlt perfect I only use the 3M medical
Paper tape over the holes. Then I don't open up till they're ready to
Start being picked
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536484 - 03/15/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's one resting waiting to start it's last flush
Here's one that's starting it's last flush
Here is the one in my last post a day later

I also don't cover mine in a layer of coco coir lol
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536488 - 03/15/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You don't need to tape your tubs. I use to do that too.
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: Sockadin]
#26536498 - 03/15/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I leave the tape on from start to finish i hate polyfill
It always worked good and its simple. So I've never changed
how i did it
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536503 - 03/15/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Talking about the duct tape below the sub lime to block light. Just so I'm clear.
I hate poly aswell
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536507 - 03/15/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
rumfor69 said: I don't mist or fan my tubs at all. The shrinkage helps to stimulate
pinning. My tubs always turn ourlt perfect I only use the 3M medical
Paper tape over the holes. Then I don't open up till they're ready to
Start being picked

How much spawn is in those tubs?
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: Sockadin]
#26536509 - 03/15/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh yeah well the thing I've noticed is if you don't tape them
And your stacking tubs if they're not taped they pin on the bottom
Like crazy! The tape definitely makes a big difference in reducing
side and bottom pinning. I do a crazy off set stacking method so they all
Get the light from above. If they're all setting on the floor it's not as
Bad. But once they're up in the air it gets bad without the tape imo
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: A.k.a]
#26536525 - 03/15/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
A.k.a said:
Quote:
rumfor69 said: I don't mist or fan my tubs at all. The shrinkage helps to stimulate
pinning. My tubs always turn ourlt perfect I only use the 3M medical
Paper tape over the holes. Then I don't open up till they're ready to
Start being picked

How much spawn is in those tubs?
Well here is where I do things VERY differently. I do a 1:1 ratio.
I use 9 jars of spawn that are at the 600ml mark on the jar and 6
quarts of sterilized coir. I know it's not how it can be done, it's just
What I do. It's FAST...from g2g i have dried product in 7-8 weeks.
I have two of the biggest AA cookers and I use this to do cook my coir in bulk

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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536532 - 03/15/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was just wondering to see if not hydrating the sub hurts overall yield.
So you’re getting 4-5 ounces off 9 mycoquarts?
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: A.k.a]
#26536541 - 03/15/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes. Now I'm sure it might grow more if done differently..maybe.
But its just what I've always done. After mixing the tub up it will
reach 100% colonization in 5-7 days. Contams have no chance in beating
it. I go for speed and turnover rate. 4 tubs gets 16-20 dry zips then
tossed and refilled with new jars the same day. 4 tubs a week and you'll
get a 20 tub rotation.
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536544 - 03/15/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
rumfor69 said: Here's one resting waiting to start it's last flush
Here's one that's starting it's last flush
Here is the one in my last post a day later

I also don't cover mine in a layer of coco coir lol
Do you mist your tubs daily though before your first flush?
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If you’re doing that much you should tweak some things. You could easily be getting 20oz off 9 quarts of spawn.
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Quote:
MagicTruffleDude said:
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rumfor69 said: Here's one resting waiting to start it's last flush
Here's one that's starting it's last flush
Here is the one in my last post a day later

I also don't cover mine in a layer of coco coir lol
Do you mist your tubs daily though before your first flush?
I never mist or fan mine at all i used to and it never made a difference so I stopped
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: A.k.a]
#26536564 - 03/15/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: If you’re doing that much you should tweak some things. You could easily be getting 20oz off 9 quarts of spawn.
I've tried messing with the ratio and didn't see any change in the average
Output and it just made them go slower so I've just always kept it the same
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Re: What did I do wrong? [Re: rumfor69]
#26536585 - 03/15/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
rumfor69 said:
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A.k.a said: If you’re doing that much you should tweak some things. You could easily be getting 20oz off 9 quarts of spawn.
I've tried messing with the ratio and didn't see any change in the average
Output and it just made them go slower so I've just always kept it the same
Wow ok, yours look very good. I may have to try not misting.
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