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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Samskara92]
#26536105 - 03/15/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Samskara92 said: I personally feel like, given the size of Italy and the way its popping up in the states, we are going to have Italy like situations in a state by state situation. America is definitely going to be the epicenter before it's all said and done
I really believe so too. Italy got the scoop but we;ll have Wuhans everywhere.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26536107 - 03/15/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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im not afraid untill summer, my town is a tourist destination, I wouldnt be surprised if the population doubles in summer, either that or tourists wont be going out this year and all the small shops the locals dont shop at cant make rent
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26536109 - 03/15/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Asante said: The Dutch are cvery stingy in doing tests. Almost every test is a hit.
I dont have the figures though, I just know that almost no one gets tested.
That's exactly why those numbers aren't meaningful. If every test is a hit (positive?) Then that means 100× more people are infected than reported ..... which makes all your mortality rates false. Makes the hysteria false. Makes all the speculation false.
How do you think they establish the date rate of common flu? For the Covid19 case ~80% has no severe symptoms. Many wont know they have had it at all. The same is true for normal flu. So how do we know the date rate for the normal flu is 0,1%? It's probably a lot closer to the truth than the numbers you get for covid19 from deviding death with confirms, but they share the same problem with most cases never being reported.
I'm guessing that the epidemiologists actually are aware of this and taking it into account when they estimate the date rate to be around 1%.
Are you saying the epidemiologists are so fuckign stupid they dont realise the effects not checking enough people for Covid?
No one is saying the actual death rate is 7%. Which is what you get from dividing death/confirmed in Italy...
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26536111 - 03/15/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2020/03/12/coronavirus-spike-could-put-major-strain-tennessees-hospitalse/5031622002/
Here is an article saying that my state has about 25,000 medical beds. But, with business as usual, about 50% of them are in use daily. They're expecting about 700,000 Tennesseans to potentially get the infection and about 70,000 of them to be elderly cases.
I am expecting Italy/China level lockdowns to hit the states within a week, maybe less.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: gopher]
#26536113 - 03/15/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wonder if overall per year flu deaths will remain at about the same %. Or lower.
You cant die from the normal flu if you die from covid instead or vice versa.
Does covid-19 take away a percentage of the deaths that would be attributed to other viruses that wipe out old people with comorbidities.
Or will just as many people die as normal from common colds and flus and covid-19 is adding on. I don't think so
I think at the end of the year the overall percentage of death because of all respiratory illness causing viruses will change by very very little.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: bodhisatta]
#26536114 - 03/15/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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gopher said: im not afraid untill summer, my town is a tourist destination, I wouldnt be surprised if the population doubles in summer, either that or tourists wont be going out this year and all the small shops the locals dont shop at cant make rent
Yeah same thing happens with Winnipeg, tho presume airport employees are at risk because it's a bit of a hub airport
we are up to 4 known cases in the province as of today so am aware and practicing reasonable precautions, but not going into panic mode just small adjustments -- don't stop at Tim Hortons for a smoothie in the city on my way to (or home from) my voice therapy appointment this coming friday
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: bodhisatta]
#26536115 - 03/15/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: You cant die from the normal flu if you die from covid instead or vice versa
Challenge accepted!
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Malkuthian] 1
#26536119 - 03/15/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: You cant die from the normal flu if you die from covid instead or vice versa
Challenge accepted!
But you can have both at once.
What if you die then?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Tantrika]
#26536122 - 03/15/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is Wuhan today
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-masks-video-doctors-nurses-hospital-a9402631.html?utm_source=reddit.com
I cant think of why there would be a dramatic fall in cases in Wuhan other than that the disease seems to have "run its course" through th city, infecting probably close to 100%.
If anyone has a better theory of why new cases would drop and doctors and nurses are chilling out in the epicenter of this virus.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees] 2
#26536129 - 03/15/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 2
#26536142 - 03/15/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hospitals are totally throwing out old ppe protocols. Nurses are being encouraged to reuse masks that we were previously written up for reusing. And it is just starting
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: trees]
#26536143 - 03/15/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: I cant think of why there would be a dramatic fall in cases in Wuhan other than that the disease seems to have "run its course" through th city, infecting probably close to 100%.
If anyone has a better theory of why new cases would drop and doctors and nurses are chilling out in the epicenter of this virus.
I find your lack of imagination disturbing.
Apart from imagining things this has something to do with complete isolation of the entire population in that area, including welding doors shut the keep people locked in.
Hard to spread anything in those conditions....
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Malkuthian]
#26536146 - 03/15/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm not sure it really supports what trees was saying earlier about it being futile to try to contain it.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: bodhisatta]
#26536147 - 03/15/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I think at the end of the year the overall percentage of death because of all respiratory illness causing viruses will change by very very little.
same if you have some other nasty lethal diseases or cancer. covid19 might kill them a few months before something else ultimately would have. but they will get labeled as corona deaths.
and you already said that lolz
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Malkuthian]
#26536148 - 03/15/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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People are walking the streets of Wuhan and buying groceries and shit, they're still infected, not welded shut in their homes.
The most common idea people are discussing on reddit is the herd immunity effect settling in
Apologies for my lack of imagination.
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#26536154 - 03/15/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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trees said: This is Wuhan today
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-masks-video-doctors-nurses-hospital-a9402631.html?utm_source=reddit.com
I cant think of why there would be a dramatic fall in cases in Wuhan other than that the disease seems to have "run its course" through th city, infecting probably close to 100%.
If anyone has a better theory of why new cases would drop and doctors and nurses are chilling out in the epicenter of this virus.
Everyone in China is barcoded. You can’t leave your neighborhood or apartment complex without getting scanned. You get scanned going into stores. Into buildings. Public transport. If people are infected the government knows where they have been. Contacts are quarantined in their homes. Their doors are sealed with police tape. if the tape is broken, they arrest you and put you in government quarantine. They stopped transmission because they track the movements of every single person.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26536162 - 03/15/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's no barcode koods lol You can leave. The "scan" is a temporal temperature scan Right now people are allowed to shop They take your ID if you buy meds at the pharmacy. That's about the extent of their tracking
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: bodhisatta]
#26536163 - 03/15/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everyone has a barcode. It’s is on their phone or printed out. You need it to move around. I’m not talking about temperature scans. 🤦♂️
It’s one of those square barcodes like see on advertisements
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26536166 - 03/15/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh well I'm talking about what's actually happening.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26536171 - 03/15/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I can't find anything on the people being barcoded.
The device you saw was a temperature scanner, not a Barcode scanner.
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