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Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? * 1
    #26535107 - 03/14/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So I'm getting some Amazonian shrooms tomorrow and also will be getting some penis envy shrooms. I wanted to take a half gram alone and see how it feels alone at home. With my GF and daughter in the bedroom. She will most likely fall asleep with my daughter. I was also thinking buying some CBD to smoke to help if i need it. Has anyone had experience with either strain. I want to get inner healing and want stop smoking cigs and work on inner self


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26535117 - 03/14/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Try the Amazonian first, how about 2g?

If PE 1g, they are known to be stronger than normal cubes.

.5g you might not even feel. 1.5g is where average cubes start to pique my interest.

2-3g is a nice time, plus 4g who the fuck knows what will happen. LoL

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26535127 - 03/14/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just always remember; no matter how high you get, you're going to be fine, in 4 hours or less; you'll be back to normal.

Sometimes the best thing to do is just put om some good mellow music and lay down, and let go; don't worry about anything.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26535128 - 03/14/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok if I took like a gram of amazonian and I felt a little something but not quite there can I just take more?


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26535145 - 03/14/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I would start at 2 grams also.  But, you are right.  Starting small is fine and you can always take more.  Grind them up or tear it into small pieces and put them in lemon juice if you have it.  I don't think you would feel much off of 1 gram even, no matter the strain.  Enjoy!


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: ilus]
    #26535170 - 03/14/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok where is that shroom chart that shows you the dosages and experiences. I looked at it earlier and now can't find it. Can someone send me a link or show me how to get there


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26535180 - 03/14/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Ok if I took like a gram of amazonian and I felt a little something but not quite there can I just take more?




It will most likely just make the first 1g longer. Not more intense.

Take the 2g. You won’t die from it. Probably.

I mean...... so long as your shrooms aren’t laced. :grin:

On any meds or anything?

How do you plan to take them? I suggest tea. Drink it in 3-4 swigs, one swig every 5-8 mins.

Less than 30 mins after the last swig..... you will be be able to notice that something is going on.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu] * 3
    #26535188 - 03/14/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't waste time with a half-gram of cubes-- you will feel "altered" but I don't think I've read anyone say it was a worthwhile experience.

But you do what makes you comfortable. If you're scared of them, do what it takes to become comfortable-- and if that's a .5 gram start, then start that way and work yourself up.

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26535189 - 03/14/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I was just going to chew them straight and eat them but im might just get some lemonade or tea to drink in 3-4 swigs. I would have just done it in one bog gulp if you didn't mention that. I want to reach level 2 on the trip level description. Not over the top but not borderline just right in the middle


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu] * 2
    #26535195 - 03/14/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

By the way-- nobody can tell you accurately how strong/weak YOUR shrooms are or will be.
Cubes are cubes-- but imagine a room with 1000 people in it-- that's the lottery your spores grew up from.
Do you have a 6 foot 8-inch 250 pound fighter, a 105-lb 67 year-old woman, or somewhere closer to an average 150lb dad-bod guy. Most likely they're average.

No "strain" is better than another when it comes to cubes "GENERALLY" but the two you listed will show a difference in strength, with PE known to be somewhat stronger than regular cubes (of which Amazon are included)

Weight is an approximation-- you could go wild on 3g or feel your desired level 2 experience.

I would aim at 1.5g personally-- but you'll just have to experiment with the shrooms you have and see.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: coAsTal]
    #26535211 - 03/14/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26535733 - 03/15/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I would recommend at least a gram. If they are potent dealer shrooms, then yeah maybe a half a gram if youre really sensitive.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26536176 - 03/15/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

With noral cubensis (like amazonian strain), half a gram won't make you feel much. You'll feel slightly buzzed, but that's it. A body high with very few visuals, thoughts won't be changed much.. not really worth a first try.

1.5 to 2g is where the magic starts for most people. For a real trip, with possible lifechanging insights, usually a higher dose is needed, like 3.5 to 4 grams.
Maybe 5g, but that's a pretty high dose already. You are unable to do anything but laying down thinking about yourself and life at this high dose. Maybe too much for a first timer. 2 to 3 grams is more managable.

PEs are like twice as potent as other cubensis, so dose accordingly.

I'd say 2.5g of amazonian, or 1.5g of PEs.

As other already said, noone knows how potent your shrooms really are, or how you are affected by that dose. Some people need more, some need less.

Change doesn't come immediately from one experience.
Shrooms can show you how to improve your life, but that's not always the case. And if it is, afterwards you have to do the work still.
Psychedelics are tools. You do the work, they only make working more easy. But you have to lear to operate them. You cannot screw with a hammer.
The first try will be totally different to what you might expect, so better don't expect anything at all. :sun:

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26540391 - 03/17/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I have another question I'm actually thinking if I should take them tonight or wake up around 3-4am and take them then. I have my kids for spring break and I have a small apartment and yall know kids they whine to me about video games and tablets, and everything in between. So I was going to talk to them and maybe have them sleep early or watch movies. I wanted to do it in my patio outside and actually lay in the patio and just be alone and tell my boys to not disturb me. Is this ok or am I overthinking. My girlfriend will be in the room and my boys in the living room and me outside the patio


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26540403 - 03/17/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Here's my advice after thousands of trips-- the most important thing after proper physical preparation is the setting of the experience. Especially when it's new to you.

Whatever you choose for your timing, it's important not to be too worried about anything fouling up your environment-- so your instincts are right on that front. You'll be fine brother-- I always prearrange a 5 or 6 hour playlist on Spotify so I can set it and forget it-- it goes a long way towards settling into an experience with confidence.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu] * 2
    #26540409 - 03/17/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There's a threshold dose when it comes to magic mushrooms. Take at least 1.5 grams but I'd suggest 2 grams (dry) to start with.

It's also recommended to take your dose all at once. Tolerance builds extremely quickly and you can't re-dose the way you can with other drugs. If you want to trip again then it's best to wait at least a week. You could try again after 3 or 4 days but your trip won't be as good as it could be. This isn't a problem if you're using the shrooms for migraines or cluster headaches though. If you're using them for migraines then you'll have to wait at least 24 hours between each dose.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: migraineur] * 1
    #26540460 - 03/17/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yea imma take 2 grams then, I was Going to do 1.5. Imma eat them straight like in a minute or 2 and take a little water and wash them down. I wanted to get some wood and actually put it in my grill with an open top and just let it burn lol. I was going to clean my patio just relax and breath. I get off at 6 today and off tommorrow and been thinking today since I got them. I listen icaro songs that I got attached to from the ayahuasca journey I had and also like indian chanting music is that ok? Or should I listen to some different shroom trip music specifically for shroom trips.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26540485 - 03/17/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Putting them into capsules makes them a lot easier to store, carry, dose and swallow. The Cap M Quik capsule filling kits are handy. I prefer the size 000 capsules because they hold more.

Do what ever relaxes you and make you happy. Even if you start to feel uneasy then you can embrace the trip and use it as a learning experience. If you still can't handle it then benzos, such as valium, are always handy.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: migraineur]
    #26540512 - 03/17/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

fuck no

thats like eating a crumb of a weed brownie

even my mom has more balls than u her first trip I gave her 3g

My friend who never even tried drugs did 5g and thought it was the cure for cancer

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: DemonSlaya] * 2
    #26540541 - 03/17/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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fuck no

thats like eating a crumb of a weed brownie

even my mom has more balls than u her first trip I gave her 3g

My friend who never even tried drugs did 5g and thought it was the cure for cancer

Go big or go home



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Don't listen to the frat-brained that say that kind of shit for a first timer--
The first trip I ever had with shrooms was 2.09g-- it was absolutely magnificent, powerful, and life-changing.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: coAsTal]
    #26540563 - 03/17/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't listen to the frat-brained





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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: DemonSlaya]
    #26540567 - 03/17/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Gee, we’d never guess...


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: DemonSlaya] * 1
    #26540586 - 03/17/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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Don't listen to the frat-brained





I dropped out of college




The reason it's poor advice to "go big or go home" is simple-- it may have been good for you and your mom, or some of your friends, but it's irresponsible to assume anything like that for anyone else.

Did you have a wife and children there when you first tripped? A career and family responsibilities that you were risking by "going big" your first time out?

I'd guess not-- which is why your advice is dangerously flippant and should not be given any credibility.

You have to trust that the OP knows why he's making measured steps into the psychedelic world, and let him work out his own formula to get the best from the experience. He may decide after that he's excited to try an eighth, but he'll have built up confidence from experience in his home, with his lifestyle, and will be ready for it on his terms.

That's what everyone should want for him

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    #26540622 - 03/17/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: DemonSlaya]
    #26540637 - 03/17/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Such a pity-- I guess everyone else probably thinks the same thing based on your zero ratings from your other "contributions".

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: coAsTal] * 2
    #26540663 - 03/17/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

2g is a very good first dose. :sun: :mushroom2:

My first dose was smaller like 1.5 to 1.7g, and same as coAsTal it blew my mind and convinced me that psychedelics are my drugs / tools of choice for the rest of my life.

Never regreted this decision. Mushrooms are medicine. :smirk:

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    #26540693 - 03/17/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Such a pity-- I guess everyone else probably thinks the same thing based on your zero ratings from your other "contributions".

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: DemonSlaya]
    #26540704 - 03/17/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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Such a pity-- I guess everyone else probably thinks the same thing based on your zero ratings from your other "contributions".

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: feldman114]
    #26541024 - 03/17/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If for what ever reason I cant handle it can i smoke a CBD blunt i have a few I just picked up. Will that intensify it or mellow mw out?


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26541029 - 03/17/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Imo, anyone can handle 2g, even on the first go.
I can’t say the same for 3g or even 2.5.

2g is right in the pocket for a first trip. You get the magic, but not too intense.

For context, I can easily take 2g in the morning and go to work. I’d be unproductive but I’m sure I could pull it off. That’s after many, many, maaany trips though.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: feldman114]
    #26541034 - 03/17/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

But yeah, weed can get you out of the mushroom weirdness and into the familiar embrace of weed-high for an hour or so.

Dunno about that CBD stuff, seems useless to me.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26541050 - 03/17/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

THC won't help you if the trip gets too rough. The opposite will happen, it will intensify any negative feelings or paranoia.
Many people freaked out after smoking thc-rich weed while peaking on psychedelics.

CBD only, on the other hand, acts relaxing and calming. Might ground you a good bit if you are used to it.

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    #26541106 - 03/17/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I guess it’s possible, I just never heard of someone flipping out on 2g of cubes


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26541119 - 03/17/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yea imma take 2 grams then, I was Going to do 1.5. Imma eat them straight like in a minute or 2 and take a little water and wash them down. I wanted to get some wood and actually put it in my grill with an open top and just let it burn lol. I was going to clean my patio just relax and breath. I get off at 6 today and off tommorrow and been thinking today since I got them. I listen icaro songs that I got attached to from the ayahuasca journey I had and also like indian chanting music is that ok? Or should I listen to some different shroom trip music specifically for shroom trips.



There are certain genres of music I steer clear of, but generally speaking, music sounds amazing, and steers the trip. Your icaros and chanting music will definitely give an ayahuasca, or shamanic vibe to the trip.

I have a 14 year old daughter, and a very stubborn (can get hysterical anytime I’m tripping anywhere near my daughter), though very accepting, wife. So I have to plan every trip out in advance; ideally I like the house to myself, but when that’s not possible, we have to come to arrangements, such that I don’t bump into my daughter. Not a problem; and when she’s 18, I’ll be teaching her all bout psilocybin.

Hope it goes well sir, get your music on, hopefully the fire, the kids stay asleep, and just go with the flow. You’ll feel amazing tomorrow 👍🏻

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    #26541190 - 03/17/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator




I just checked out that awesome Java script for dosing calculations, and I have two questions:

1. I have no idea what to punch in for psilocybin content die these two fields: milligrams of psilocybin per gram of or for milligrams of psilocin per gram of. I am growing Golden Teacher and Costa Rico now, so what numbers would I use as a guesstimate?

2. I noticed that the use of MAOI both in that Java script and on Erowid's site all mention that they can intensify tripping. What MAOI's would be recommended if (and this is a big if!) I go that route?


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26541258 - 03/17/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Imma trip soon tell my kids to stay inside and i have cbd blunts its not weed its the extract of weed which is cbd and not THC. Its like if extract psilocybin from the ehrooms but with out the trip. Lol i was going to keep them handy see how it guides me


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26541286 - 03/17/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Don't be afraid my friend-- spin up that playlist... you're in for the time of your life :peace:


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    #26541334 - 03/17/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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LSA Woodrose said: I noticed that the use of MAOI both in that Java script and on Erowid's site all mention that they can intensify tripping. What MAOI's would be recommended if (and this is a big if!) I go that route?




Rue/Caapi/Harmalas or Moclobemide. Rue is more easily obtainable and potent, and only really need 2 to 2.5 to 3 to 3.5 grams of it to make quite the difference. Or Harmala extracts which can be homemade relatively easily or bought on ebay. Moclobemide (if you can find it) is not available in the US but can be bought from certain online pharmacies without a prescription. Caapi is a little more hit or miss and is weaker in potency and can't be consumed in capsules, must be consumed in tea. So i'd say go for Rue or Harmalas personally, for Psilohuasca, or Moclobemide (if you can find it) for a potentiated, clearheaded and a little different kind of a mushroom experience, Moclobemide is purely an MAO-A inhibitor so it doesn't have the Huasca effects that Rue/Caapi/Harmalas do, whereas Rue/Caapi/Harmalas is what makes it Psilohuasca, a much different kind of experience compared to mushrooms alone or mushrooms and pure MAO-A inhibition.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Sabnock]
    #26541423 - 03/17/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

1.3-1.5 is a really nice spot. but i will say i've been taking a .5 twice a day awhile now and some times i'll take a .7 it takes me to a place that actually seems less "trippy" more like a speedy high. i'd try that .5 and just lay in a chair with eyes closed n good music you wont regret it.

tip. go to store buy magnesium citrate take 500mg 20-30 mins b4 helps it move through your gut.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: HappyHigh]
    #26541833 - 03/17/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to disagree with the folks urging you to take more and suggest that you start with 1.5 grams rather than 2 or more.  I've had some really intense trips on 2 grams, and some quite nice ones on 1.5.  My preferred dosage has usually been 1.75, because that is half an eighth. 

I would not suggest taking more if the trip isn't intense enough for you, as has been said that is more likely to prolong it than intensify it and will just end up wasting shrooms.  Tolerance also goes up really fast, so after you trip the first time wait at least a week or else take twice as much as you would otherwise do.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: Rigogpu]
    #26541834 - 03/17/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Rigogpu said:
If for what ever reason I cant handle it can i smoke a CBD blunt i have a few I just picked up. Will that intensify it or mellow mw out?





Could do either, if it is low THC it's more likely to mellow you out.


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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26541923 - 03/18/20 01:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator




I just checked out that awesome Java script for dosing calculations, and I have two questions:

1. I have no idea what to punch in for psilocybin content die these two fields: milligrams of psilocybin per gram of or for milligrams of psilocin per gram of. I am growing Golden Teacher and Costa Rico now, so what numbers would I use as a guesstimate?

2. I noticed that the use of MAOI both in that Java script and on Erowid's site all mention that they can intensify tripping. What MAOI's would be recommended if (and this is a big if!) I go that route?



The mushroom ratio of psychoactive substances varies widely. The figures already present in those drop down boxes have been compiled by comparing numerous sources of test data. So I would leave them alone. Just select cubensis from the type of mushroom drop down for golden teachers, that’s all you need to do, and select dry or fresh.

You can tweak a couple of the ratios for how much psychoactives you lose during drying; again, these are generally accepted averages. Notice for psilocin the default value is “0.5”, this means you would lose 50% of psilocin during drying ”, (and for psilocybin set at 0.8, you’d lose 20% of the psilocybin during drying ). This is why fresh cubensis give a much nicer trip than dried; it’s also why liberty caps (Psilocybe Semilanceata) are such a great candidate for drying, because of their relatively high psilocybin content and no psilocin..

Now then harmalas, or Syrian rue; I’m definitely going to try this in the upcoming months - I had a trip from fresh Mazatapec cubensis last week, and it was one of the most spiritual trips I’ve had, awesome peak which I reached in around 40 minutes was into the come down after only 3 hours; that is a type of trip that I would like to go on for a few more hours, and at a greater intensity 👍🏻

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Re: Is half gram ok for a 1st ever experience? [Re: feldman114]
    #26541988 - 03/18/20 04:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I guess it’s possible, I just never heard of someone flipping out on 2g of cubes




Ive lost it on 2.4 grams of Dealer Cubes. Very potent type of mushroom. But yeah, normal homegrown is safe (no bad trips) at 2 grams.


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