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MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! 1
#26535026 - 03/14/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mexico-considers-border-restrictions-american-coronavirus-967448/
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In an ironic twist, due to the growing number of coronavirus cases in the U.S., health officials in Mexico are considering border restrictions for Americans looking to enter their country.
On Friday, Mexico’s Deputy Health Minister Hugo Lopez-Gatell told reporters that the spread of the coronavirus coming from the U.S. is a concern and could result in action taken at the northern border to remedy it.
“If it were technically necessary to consider mechanisms of restriction or stronger surveillance, we would have to take into account not that Mexico would bring the virus to the United States, rather that the United States could bring it here,” Lopez-Gatell said.
According to Reuters, Mexico has confirmed 26 cases of the coronavirus so far, with no reports of deaths.
However, Reuters goes on to report that the low number of cases in Mexico, which has a population of 130 million, “has raised questions about the government’s relatively hands-off approach to the epidemic.”
To no one’s surprise earlier this week, with no proof whatsoever, President Trump said the coronavirus proved the need for a border wall, writing via Twitter, “We need the Wall more than ever!”
Trump also erroneously stated during a rally in South Carolina last month that the portion of the wall that has been constructed so far is “one of the reasons [U.S. coronavirus] numbers are so good.”
Trump continued the lie, saying, “We will do everything in our power to keep the infection and those carrying the infection from entering our country. You’ve all seen the wall has gone up like magic.”
But as Wired points out, actual research on the matter proves no such thing. According to the World Health Organization (WHO) and analysis of flu data that looked at the 2009 H1N1 influenza outbreak, travel bans overall have not proven effective in slowing the spread of disease.
Turns out Bill Burr was right all along...the wall WAS meant to keep us in.
I wonder where US citizens will go for affordable healthcare now? Canad is also considering closing the border. Sucks for Rand Paul, I guess.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Kryptos]
#26535368 - 03/14/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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A lot know I'm engaged to a Venezuelan. We have been struggling through for a long ass time because of Trump's insane immigration policies. In a moment of despair I had this realization and I think others will. I foresaw terrorists targeting Americans and our government and assets abroad. Essentially you say: "Fine, keep us outside of those walls but you will be forced to stay behind them". I foresee this happening from governments and terrorists alike (especially because I think we'll see an explosion of Central American terrorism).
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Darwin23]
#26535449 - 03/14/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Darwin23 said: A lot know I'm engaged to a Venezuelan. We have been struggling through for a long ass time because of Trump's insane immigration policies. In a moment of despair I had this realization and I think others will. I foresaw terrorists targeting Americans and our government and assets abroad. Essentially you say: "Fine, keep us outside of those walls but you will be forced to stay behind them". I foresee this happening from governments and terrorists alike (especially because I think we'll see an explosion of Central American terrorism).
The immigration system being difficult doesn't mean the policies are bad.
A million immigrants every year aren't enough?
We are the least involved nation in the global markets. The U.S. Is withdrawling, and the world is going to realize what it lost by being so entitled toward us.
Saying there will be terrorism. Why would anyone give anything to people that think like that?
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#26536699 - 03/15/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wish a Mexican would!
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: meltdowner] 2
#26537205 - 03/15/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks to me that the world gets better the less the US is involved.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Kryptos]
#26537219 - 03/15/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's the opposite of the case
The modern world depends on us protecting trade, including china. We are piling out of The world and the world is going to defend into conflict because of this.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: specialpeopleclub] 1
#26538551 - 03/16/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Looks to me that the world gets better the less the US is involved.
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specialpeopleclub said: That's the opposite of the case
The modern world depends on us protecting trade, including china. We are piling out of The world and the world is going to defend into conflict because of this.
You think some guy arguing the US needs to become the world leader in green technologies is an argument against the world getting better the less the US is involved? That video was a complete waste of time for your argument.
And we don't protect trade. We interfere with trade. Look at all the sanctions we've imposed on other countries. How does that 'protect trade'?
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26539905 - 03/17/20 03:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think you watched the video, or you don't understand his arguments. That isn't at all what he said.
Our navy is the only thing keeping the trade routs secure. We took on the burden of doing this after WWII at our expense. You would know about Bretton-Woods if you listened to Peter Zeihan.
He talks mostly about shale oil, not renewable energy.
His whole point is that we, as the preeminent super power have the least investment in the global market. We also.are what allows nations dependant on global markets to have them through security: naval, militarily, and financially.I
We protect trade routs with the navy, we keep our allies in western Europe and east Asia militarily secure, and we have the most stable currency.
It will take a hundred years at best for another nation to catch up to where we are today financially, and two hundred militarily.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: specialpeopleclub] 2
#26540246 - 03/17/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can say what you want about their government's tactics. China will be the world's largest economy in a lot less than a hundred years. This isn't even a debatable issue among informed people.
Numerous prominent sources such as the IMF, Price Waterhouse Coopers and Standard Chartered Bank report that it will happen by 2030 and may happen much sooner than that. India is also projected to be a bigger economic power than the U.S. by 2050. In a hundred years it is likely that neither they or us will be at the top.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Brian Jones]
#26540293 - 03/17/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I posted a video on August isn't the case. I'll lay out the reasons.
China has a demographic crisis. The one child policy gave them a male-skewed old population.
Their economy is propped up on stolen intellectual property and currency manipulation.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Brian Jones]
#26540341 - 03/17/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: You can say what you want about their government's tactics. China will be the world's largest economy in a lot less than a hundred years. This isn't even a debatable issue among informed people.
Numerous prominent sources such as the IMF, Price Waterhouse Coopers and Standard Chartered Bank report that it will happen by 2030 and may happen much sooner than that. India is also projected to be a bigger economic power than the U.S. by 2050. In a hundred years it is likely that neither they or us will be at the top.
China and India have 5-7 times the population. At the end of the day, China and India have many years before they could ever be on equal economic footing as the US.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#26540346 - 03/17/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: I posted a video on August isn't the case. I'll lay out the reasons.
China has a demographic crisis. The one child policy gave them a male-skewed old population.
Their economy is propped up on stolen intellectual property and currency manipulation.
It's propped up by global corporations that love the huge profit margins by doing business inside of China. This comes at the expense of the US working class. Our leaders sold us out for profits with our potential enemy.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: qman]
#26540357 - 03/17/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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We should have supported Taiwan instead of the mainland.
Getting our interests entangled with communists was a bad idea
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#26540380 - 03/17/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you think our govt should tell our citizens which countries they can and can’t do business with or have a business in ?
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Psilynut2]
#26540402 - 03/17/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think free trade applies more within the US, and to a lesser extent certain historically cooperative nations, such as England, France, and Germany.
I have trouble with the idea that did it see can own companies and property in the US, so it's reasonable I'd think we shouldn't be allowed to do that either.
What if we go to war of have a conflict? Who is this company going to be loyal to?
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Psilynut2]
#26540513 - 03/17/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: Do you think our govt should tell our citizens which countries they can and can’t do business with or have a business in ?
US based companies can do whatever they want outside of the US, but with that being said, our government can place any regulation on that business. If they don't like that regulation, they can attempt to be a foreign based company.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: specialpeopleclub] 3
#26540523 - 03/17/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: I think free trade applies more within the US, and to a lesser extent certain historically cooperative nations, such as England, France, and Germany.
I have trouble with the idea that did it see can own companies and property in the US, so it's reasonable I'd think we shouldn't be allowed to do that either.
What if we go to war of have a conflict? Who is this company going to be loyal to?
The "capitalists" in the US have proven they have absolutely zero loyalty to the US. They're globalists and don't care about US nationalism, they care about profits and power.
They love the US military and business law protection, but that's about it. It's called an one way street and that's why the US is in the mess we're in today.
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: qman]
#26540543 - 03/17/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Completely agree
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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#26540780 - 03/17/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: I don't think you watched the video, or you don't understand his arguments. That isn't at all what he said.
Oh I wasted 45 minutes watching it, and I know exactly what he said. I think it's you that only watched the first minute and saw what you wanted and then posted 45 minutes of bullshit for the rest of us to waste our time on. That's the last time I watch anything from you.
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specialpeopleclub said: Our navy is the only thing keeping the trade routs secure. We took on the burden of doing this after WWII at our expense.
You wanted us to watch a 45 minute video to see what you said in one sentence? That's the last time I watch anything from you.
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specialpeopleclub said: You would know about Bretton-Woods if you listened to Peter Zeihan.
I know all about Bretton-Woods, and that wasn't the topic of your video.
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specialpeopleclub said: He talks mostly about shale oil, not renewable energy.
His whole point is that we, as the preeminent super power have the least investment in the global market.
Yes, and so then he argued that the US should become a world leader in green technologies.
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specialpeopleclub said: We also.are what allows nations dependant on global markets to have them through security: naval, militarily, and financially.
We protect trade routs with the navy, we keep our allies in western Europe and east Asia militarily secure, and we have the most stable currency.
Now go pound your chest and scream "USA!"
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specialpeopleclub said: It will take a hundred years at best for another nation to catch up to where we are today financially, and two hundred militarily.
I'm not going to waste another 50 minutes listening to some idiot talk. Here's what a quick Google search shows. See if you find anything different:

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Re: MEXICO POLITICAL STRATEGY: Build a wall and make the US pay for it! [Re: Brian Jones]
#26540787 - 03/17/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: You can say what you want about their government's tactics. China will be the world's largest economy in a lot less than a hundred years. This isn't even a debatable issue among informed people.
Numerous prominent sources such as the IMF, Price Waterhouse Coopers and Standard Chartered Bank report that it will happen by 2030 and may happen much sooner than that. India is also projected to be a bigger economic power than the U.S. by 2050. In a hundred years it is likely that neither they or us will be at the top.
Thanks Brian - you beat me to it.
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