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Ok, What should I do now?
    #26534515 - 03/14/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)


I have another day or two until the last jar colonizes completely so I am trying to figure out which tek
that I want to follow. I have never spawned to bulk before. What do y'all recommend? Coir is not
readily available where I live.I was thinking about making a substrate based on Black Kow composted manure. Any ideas on this?


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: oldest hippie] * 1
    #26534551 - 03/14/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Get coir.  Amazon or any pet store.........it’s readily available everywhere and very hard to screw up.  Manure is not an easy first grow.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: SynKyd]
    #26534565 - 03/14/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'd just order a load of coir for this and future grows. Pm me if you need a source.

How I do substrate if one tub at a time it's 1 brick, 2qts verm, then add 4qts hot h20. Cap, mix well before spawning.
Save 1qt of sub as a casing and fruiting conditions at spawn.  Mp tape 2 layers on bottom, 1 layer on top. Monotubs.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: SynKyd]
    #26534591 - 03/14/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I live in rural Alaska and can get two kinds of coir in town.  Go to your local Lowes or Home Depot and head over to where the plants are.  Get you a 11lb block of Viagrow for like 10-12 bucks.  Black Kow sucks, but it will work.  Would rather use it oudoors if I had to.  Remember using it in a kiddie pool grow years ago when I got some for free and it worked okay with some ammendments.  Agree with above: not great for a first grow.  Always be on the lookout for area pastures too.  Lots of hpoo out there... but I bet you have a home improvement store nearby that has your back.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: filthyknees]
    #26534596 - 03/14/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You can use jiffy mix if treated properly. Was a big thing before the coir as a sub burst on the scene. I have seen other people use it with success. I would sterlize it in quarts first though.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26534657 - 03/14/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I live in rural Alaska and can get two kinds of coir in town.  Go to your local Lowes or Home Depot and head over to where the plants are.  Get you a 11lb block of Viagrow for like 10-12 bucks.  Black Kow sucks, but it will work.  Would rather use it oudoors if I had to.  Remember using it in a kiddie pool grow years ago when I got some for free and it worked okay with some ammendments.  Agree with above: not great for a first grow.  Always be on the lookout for area pastures too.  Lots of hpoo out there... but I bet you have a home improvement store nearby that has your back.



We do indeed have both, but Coconut Coir is not available for pick up, and not available for delivery to store.
I haven't checked the pet stores yet. How much do I need for these partial jars? What size tub do I need?
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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: oldest hippie]
    #26534731 - 03/14/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

3 jars 22qt tub. 1/3 a brick of coir and 1/2 qrt of verm


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26535233 - 03/14/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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3 jars 22qt tub. 1/3 a brick of coir and 1/2 qrt of verm




Got it! Thanks. I am going to petco tomorrow.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: oldest hippie] * 1
    #26535236 - 03/14/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You only use 1/3 brick for three quarts?

I normally use a whole one for 4 quarts. The eco earth pet store three pack bricks.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26541827 - 03/17/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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3 jars 22qt tub. 1/3 a brick of coir and 1/2 qrt of verm




I couldn't find a 22 qt tub so I bought a 25 qt. I used 1/3 of a brick of coir. It was really a pain in the
ass to cut it. I think next time, that I will use a saw. I added 1 1/2 qts water and got to field
capacity with the vermiculite then pasteurized for 90 minutes. The temperature went too high at
one point up to 195F so I turned it off. I lined the bottom of the tub with a black garbage bag
I let the substrate cool to room temperature and layered the substrate and the spawn into the
tub and mixed it. I put a layer of aluminum foil on top of the substrate, misted the tub and
put on the lid. It resides now in my closet until it colonizes and can join my grow bag project by the window.
If this is successful, I will post some pictures.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: oldest hippie]
    #26541857 - 03/18/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

No leed for the foil (just to save you the trouble) by the by.  25qts are a nice size.  I have a couple of the latching Sterilite 25qts.  Best of luck.  Look forward to seeing your work!  :rockon:


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26541868 - 03/18/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

in the closet in the dark does not sound like an ideal place...


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: Babylon]
    #26541872 - 03/18/20 12:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yeah I skimmed over the closet thing somehow... It can go with your bag now.  Light  is beneficial in all stages of growth.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26542029 - 03/18/20 05:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

For breaking up coir if you can get a solid blade knife or something similar you can just jam it into the brick then pull or push the handle and it splits really easily.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26544527 - 03/19/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh yeah I skimmed over the closet thing somehow... It can go with your bag now.  Light  is beneficial in all stages of growth.





Both errors corrected. Thanks for the tips. It just seemed so naked! After it consolidates a little more I will trim the liner. Wish me luck.


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: oldest hippie]
    #26627512 - 04/25/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

All good things come to he who waits! Thank you all for help!



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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: oldest hippie]
    #26628959 - 04/26/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome tub. How did it end up?


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Re: Ok, What should I do now? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26630021 - 04/26/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Awesome tub. How did it end up?



Thanks, the are getting bigger! I don't know why they are clustered in the center of the tub, and not so much on the ends.
I have been watching your experiment thread. I was going to ask you how you collected all of those oak flowers
then my oak trees bloomed, and answered that question for you.


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