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Pf tek field capacity question * 1
    #26533029 - 03/13/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So I started my first with pf tek, the updated tek version and started with 2:1:1 verm:water:brf. However, the resulted mas was very dry and wouldnt give any water when squeezing hard. So I ended up adding about 0.5 fractions of water so it seemed to be at the field capacity described in the tek, a couple of drops too dripping though so I sprinkled a bit of more verm. Steamed jars filled with this and the dry verm layer as per the tek.
So my question is can someone say from experience that I fucked up already or are these jars good for inoculation?


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: InnerWisdom] * 1
    #26533067 - 03/13/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did you mix the verm and water first and then add the BRF or did you throw the verm and BRF in the bowl together and then added water?


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26533157 - 03/13/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Prolly work. Better to be a little dry than a little wet. Pictures


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: 6 Speed]
    #26533197 - 03/13/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Did you mix the verm and water first and then add the BRF or did you throw the verm and BRF in the bowl together and then added water?




Just curious cause im a newbie too, does it make a difference in what order you do it?

thanks

also OP, do you have any pictures?


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: TheDuckMan] * 1
    #26533224 - 03/13/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

the pf tek is not supposed to be at field capacity it's damp at best, too much moisture compacts the substrate, stick to the recipe.
the verm is barely at field capacity before the flour is added.
no it doesn't make a difference what order you do it unless you use hot water, it becomes sticky clumpy and starchy so use cold water


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #26533368 - 03/13/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I always mix Verm and Flour then add water slowly stiring and getting the BRF to stick to the damp verm. You want a fluffy light consistency. If it sticks to your hand it's to wet. You should be able to grab a handful and let it fall back off into the bowl and your hand should be pretty dry.


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: Sockadin]
    #26533421 - 03/13/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

When steam bathing, do I have the BRF verm mixture in the jars??

Sorry if this is a stupid question.


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: TheDuckMan]
    #26533441 - 03/13/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes and the jars go in the water.


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: TheDuckMan]
    #26533443 - 03/13/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

yes fill the jars, dry layer lid two foils slow rolling boil


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: cronicr]
    #26533468 - 03/13/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome, thanks guys :heart:


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: cronicr]
    #26533676 - 03/13/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well damn it. I would say my mix was at field cap and in the end it did get quite clumpy which I was a bit worried about. Should I just start over? By the way, why does the tek posted by Ziran then emphasise field capacity with video clips to show it if it isn't important for pf tek?


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26533694 - 03/13/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

his tek says that because he is talking about the verm and water only so before the flour goes in


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: cronicr]
    #26533713 - 03/13/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Right. Thanks for the clarification. Might as well try the jars I made already, but I will also make a new set with the correct recipe.


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26533987 - 03/14/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The texture of the correct PF material should feel like damp sand. Not clumpy. Not totally dry. Damp sand.

Without pics, its hard to say if you messed up the mixture on your current jars.


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    #26534034 - 03/14/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, so I discarded the jars after checking out the quality of the stuff. It was way too wet and dense, like dough or something. Now I got steamed jars with just the kind of moistness you talk about. On to inoculatin now. Wish me luck.


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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26534571 - 03/14/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, so I discarded the jars after checking out the quality of the stuff. It was way too wet and dense, like dough or something. Now I got steamed jars with just the kind of moistness you talk about. On to inoculatin now. Wish me luck.



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Re: Pf tek field capacity question [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26534585 - 03/14/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, so I discarded the jars after checking out the quality of the stuff. It was way too wet and dense, like dough or something. Now I got steamed jars with just the kind of moistness you talk about. On to inoculatin now. Wish me luck.




U made the right choice. If its dough-consistency, you need to redo the batch from scratch. Good Luck InnerWisdom :thumbup:


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