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blojo02184
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Let's fight about it... PE for begginers
#26534387 - 03/14/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So peeps... I did it... I joined a FB group for helping noobs...
BUT, that place is crawling with stupid... 
So the latest thing I got into was about beginner strains... and the origin of PE.
I'm not going into giant details, but the 2 main questions that seem to be bugging me are this.
1. Is Penis Envy (any variant) ideal for a beginner to start with?
2. Is Penis Envy (any variety) a natural mushroom found in the wild?
Now I've been gone for a little while (3+ years  But I never would have thought we collectively would start telling noobs to buy a PE syringe and throw it to a cake... Maybe I'm wrong now...
Would really love a TC to chime in with the current best practice and advice on what to tell beginners.
Thanks peeps
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: blojo02184] 1
#26534427 - 03/14/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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1. Its a cube, cubes are easy as fuck to grow. So yes. 2. No Pe does just fine on cakes.
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blojo02184
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: bodhisatta]
#26534433 - 03/14/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bod, glad your still around, hope you been well.
So the thought has changed in the past 6 years or so? PE is fine for cakes if you can follow a tek?
When I first got into this the consensus was that you start with pf tek, move to agar and grains. Do the PE varieties on grains rather than cakes.
Thanks for clearing it up buddy
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TedsDead



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: blojo02184]
#26534442 - 03/14/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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there have been some killer PE grows on cakes and straw logs
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woofwoof
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: TedsDead] 1
#26534449 - 03/14/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was reading in strain crossing thread. Mushboy made a small cake for testing and he had ape fruiting from a tiny cake, he says tiny cakes are great for testing
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woofwoof
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: woofwoof] 1
#26534454 - 03/14/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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TedsDead said: u ever try 1/4 pint cakes?
Small cakes colonize really quickly.. like a few days quick great for little tests

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TedsDead



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: woofwoof]
#26534460 - 03/14/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd be soo stoked if thats what my 1st go at cakes turned out like!
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: TedsDead]
#26534485 - 03/14/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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hey blo nice to see ya! yes pe is fine to start with but it's limiting being that you can only get swabs leads to the need of agar, the only reliable vendor is $9043₩04%$ ( sounds like whoreworks) for syringes of these varieties but other then those factors it's just another cube. I likely know the group you speak of lol
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SynKyd
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: cronicr]
#26534548 - 03/14/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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PE can be slower by comparison and noobs are less patient by comparison so there is that factor.
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Sockadin



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: SynKyd]
#26534621 - 03/14/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Some dick cakes. Super easy. Dunk and roll.
Edited by Sockadin (03/14/20 11:47 AM)
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Drboomer
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: Sockadin]
#26534746 - 03/14/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you are trying to help newbies or just want a good headstash uncle Ben's tek can't be beat. Pe works great for that.
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cronicr



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: Drboomer]
#26534792 - 03/14/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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TedsDead



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: SynKyd]
#26534951 - 03/14/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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SinysterKyd said: PE can be slower by comparison and noobs are less patient by comparison so there is that factor.
that was the one thing that popped into my mind as well, LMAO!
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shroomgirl645
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: Drboomer]
#26535120 - 03/14/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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as a kinda-noob, I think premade grain spawn bags are easier than Uncle bens. basically 0 contam risk if you use needle flame sterilization and running alcohol
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A.k.a
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: shroomgirl645]
#26535295 - 03/14/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was told ape does well on cakes but not PE for whatever reason. I don’t like cakes so it didn’t matter but I bought four syringes to start, including PE and saved it for last. I’m glad I did even though it was only a few shoeboxes before running the PE, the difference between my first and fifth shoebox was huge.
I’d say it’s fine for beginners but not for a very first grow. Not to mention the wait would’ve killed me. It’s so stressful not knowing if you’re doing things right or just wasting time, no reason to drag that out an extra week or two.
And then if you’re new to not just growing but shrooms themselves....PE will destroy your world.
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TedsDead



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: A.k.a]
#26535412 - 03/14/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
A.k.a said:
And then if you’re new to not just growing but shrooms themselves....PE will destroy your world.
thats kind of the point
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Sockadin



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: TedsDead]
#26535420 - 03/14/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I disagree. Let say you do cakes with PE. That becomes your baseline and everything else.in the future seems quicker and easier.
PE takes to cakes like everything else. No extra colonization time no blobs.
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TedsDead



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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: Sockadin]
#26535423 - 03/14/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, I've never heard of PE not doing well on cakes. I've seen lots of PE killing it on cakes tho
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woodpusher420
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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: TedsDead]
#26535431 - 03/14/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I started with P.E. and did fine. I think it all boils down to your TEK and procedure. Not exactly an exotic strain.
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Mooshi97


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Re: Let's fight about it... PE for begginers [Re: shroomgirl645]
#26535438 - 03/14/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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shroomgirl645 said: as a kinda-noob, I think premade grain spawn bags are easier than Uncle bens. basically 0 contam risk if you use needle flame sterilization and running alcohol
That is horrible info. First spores to grain is always gonna be a crapshoot. Second premade grain bags or jars usually suck as well. You dont know how the person has made them, you dont know how long they have been sitting around. That whole process is just asking for contams. I know you said you were a noob, but spreading that kind of info might lead someone down the wrong way of doing things
Edited by Mooshi97 (03/14/20 07:47 PM)
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